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re: A serious question re Miles, Saban and recruit's parents
Posted on 4/15/13 at 6:17 am to peopleschamp
Posted on 4/15/13 at 6:17 am to peopleschamp
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He gives a lot of leeway and chances where maybe Saban doesn't.
this part of your statement is total BS. jThe amount of leeway Saban gives depends on where you are on the depth chart and whether or not he needs more roster space for the next incoming recruiting class.
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Posted on 4/15/13 at 8:02 am to BillyBobBlitzkrieg
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Great subject, and very worth replying to. I also notice the same thing. I believe the disparity is very accessible and can be very obvious, but there is a huge blinder factor that everyone in this country is indoctrinated with through media and education, and that is called a results driven society. The means always justify the ends.
In this day in age, we have been bred to believe that poor character and methodology are overlooked and even sometimes praised as long as you achieve acceptable results. All is forgiven, excuses are thrown out and the public rationalizes all if a person wins.
This starts even on the most simple level. Little league parents berating their kids for losing, teaching them early on to be results driven, instead of emphasizing bonding through teamwork, sportsmanship through humility, and celebration of performing your best, even when you finish second. They will do anything to get a win because their lives are miserable at home and this in turn magnifies the importance of winning the game, regardless of cost.
Plenty of ranters on this site are the same simpletons who I am referring to, as every school has them. These are the same kind that immediately want to get rid of miles when he has one loss, or jump back on the wagon when he is winning, but always ride sabans dong cause they overly emphasize his results and cannot acknowledge his obvious flaws, and wet rag personality
Yes, yes tldr. I know, you can't help that modern technology has dumbed down your mental capacity and shortened your attention spans
That is very well said. Your explanation fits today's fast food society.
Posted on 4/15/13 at 8:28 am to Duck enticer
quote:
Great subject, and very worth replying to. I also notice the same thing. I believe the disparity is very accessible and can be very obvious, but there is a huge blinder factor that everyone in this country is indoctrinated with through media and education, and that is called a results driven society. The means always justify the ends.
In this day in age, we have been bred to believe that poor character and methodology are overlooked and even sometimes praised as long as you achieve acceptable results. All is forgiven, excuses are thrown out and the public rationalizes all if a person wins.
This starts even on the most simple level. Little league parents berating their kids for losing, teaching them early on to be results driven, instead of emphasizing bonding through teamwork, sportsmanship through humility, and celebration of performing your best, even when you finish second. They will do anything to get a win because their lives are miserable at home and this in turn magnifies the importance of winning the game, regardless of cost.
Plenty of ranters on this site are the same simpletons who I am referring to, as every school has them. These are the same kind that immediately want to get rid of miles when he has one loss, or jump back on the wagon when he is winning, but always ride sabans dong cause they overly emphasize his results and cannot acknowledge his obvious flaws, and wet rag personality
Yes, yes tldr. I know, you can't help that modern technology has dumbed down your mental capacity and shortened your attention spans
Yes ...very well said and worth re qouting.
Posted on 4/15/13 at 8:51 am to MoreOrLes
Anybody remember the DE, Willis from Holy Cross? He once told me Saban never said a word to him, off the field...about anything. Saban only talked to a handful of players off the field. Greatest "person" in the country? I think not.
Posted on 4/15/13 at 9:00 am to Cincinnati Bowtie
my roommate was recruited hard by both saban and miles....his take on this was that Miles emphasizes how LSU is a family and you come here to create bonds for a lifetime, get a degree and play in the NFL. He is laid back and doesnt talk about football as much. He said Saban is all business. He emphasizes what role you will play with the team and how he is going to prepare you for the NFL. I know this is no big secret because each are pretty transparent in how they carry themselves. There are pros and cons to each method of madness.
He said it boils down to what type of personality the recruit has because their recruiting tactics are polar opposites.
He told me Michael Brockers is the perfect example of a Les Miles recruit. The only reason he came to LSU was for the family emphasis.
He said it boils down to what type of personality the recruit has because their recruiting tactics are polar opposites.
He told me Michael Brockers is the perfect example of a Les Miles recruit. The only reason he came to LSU was for the family emphasis.
Posted on 4/15/13 at 9:37 am to BillyBobfan24_7
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never see Saban with clock management and brain farts in crucial situations.
Then you obviously aren't looking hard enough
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