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Posted on 9/25/15 at 12:20 am to purpleblackangold83
He said Houston could be competing for a national championship soon. My God
Posted on 9/25/15 at 1:06 am to TheWalrus
They should just pray that the Big12 finally lets them in so they can get blasted every year.
Posted on 9/25/15 at 7:41 am to purpleblackangold83
I hope we can flip him. He's got some of the best DT film i've ever seen. Pure Beast! 
Posted on 9/25/15 at 8:49 am to tigerfan84
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If UH has a good season, their coach might take a better job.
I love Herrman, but it's unlikely he'd get a bigger offer after just 1 year as a HC. Now is 3-4 years? I think he'll be a hot name.
And Oliver can get to the NFL just as easy from UH as he can from LSU, they draft non p5 guys all the time, even in the first. As an LSU fan if he's not signing with us, i'd much rather him at UH than A&M or someone we play.
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Posted on 9/25/15 at 8:51 am to H-Town Tiger
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And Oliver can get to the NFL just as easy from UH as he can from LSU, they draft non p5 guys all the time, even in the first. As an LSU fan if he's not signing with us, i'd much rather him at UH than A&M or someone we play.
Great players can get to the NFL from anywhere, but coaching can ALWAYS help...so who would rather help you get there - Coach O, or whoever is the DL coach at Houston?
Posted on 9/25/15 at 8:59 am to thunderbird1100
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but coaching can ALWAYS help...so who would rather help you get there - Coach O, or whoever is the DL coach at Houston?
obviously Coach O is a great coach, but do you even know the DL coach at UH? I don't, maybe he's really good as well? Why do people always assume that because a program isn't in the top 10 that the coaching is "worse'? All these great coaches started somewhere and even bad teams have had good position coaches sometimes.
Posted on 9/25/15 at 9:12 am to H-Town Tiger
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obviously Coach O is a great coach, but do you even know the DL coach at UH? I don't, maybe he's really good as well? Why do people always assume that because a program isn't in the top 10 that the coaching is "worse'? All these great coaches started somewhere and even bad teams have had good position coaches sometimes.
Maybe true, but why not take the known commodity? Also, its so much easier to improve when you are pushed by similar talent. He is going to steamroll those guys at UH.
Posted on 9/25/15 at 9:19 am to H-Town Tiger
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obviously Coach O is a great coach, but do you even know the DL coach at UH? I don't, maybe he's really good as well? Why do people always assume that because a program isn't in the top 10 that the coaching is "worse'? All these great coaches started somewhere and even bad teams have had good position coaches sometimes.
Judging by this response ill take you also have no clue who their dl coach is.
Posted on 9/25/15 at 9:20 am to Bige11
Its like choosing between a mercedes or a ferrari. Both can get you where you need to be but one gets you there in style. 
Posted on 9/25/15 at 9:21 am to WhoDatNC
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Its like choosing between a mercedes or a ferrari. Both can get you where you need to be but one gets you there in style.
Both do?
Posted on 9/25/15 at 9:21 am to Bige11
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but why not take the known commodity?
well just because you and me don't know UH's DL coach, doesn't mean he doesn't know or others in the industry don't know.
Look it's his life, don't act like you want him at LSU for his better interest and not because he's good and we want him
There are big advantages in LSU's favor, but at the end of the day, if he's good enough his natural talent will get him to the NFL.Posted on 9/25/15 at 9:22 am to Bige11
Seems to me that he's very solid to H; guys that locked in usually don't waver. he just wants some attention and that's understandable.
However, if he attends a big game at LSU, and spends time with Coach O it could get interesting.
However, if he attends a big game at LSU, and spends time with Coach O it could get interesting.
Posted on 9/25/15 at 9:26 am to thunderbird1100
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Judging by this response ill take you also have no clue who their dl coach is.
How'd you guess? could be it this statement? "do you even know the DL coach at UH? I don't maybe he's really good as well"
Ed O is great, i love having and because we have him I know we will have a great DL and recruit studs. He is not, alas the only good DL coach out there. The vast majority of DL in the NFL did not play for him, so while it is a great selling point for LSU, come play for Coach O, it is not what will make or break a kids chances to make the NFL.
Posted on 9/25/15 at 9:29 am to H-Town Tiger
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well just because you and me don't know UH's DL coach, doesn't mean he doesn't know or others in the industry don't know.
Look it's his life, don't act like you want him at LSU for his better interest and not because he's good and we want him There are big advantages in LSU's favor, but at the end of the day, if he's good enough his natural talent will get him to the NFL.
The known commodity being that Coach O has proven himself by getting kids to the NFL.
Very true I want him at LSU because of his talent, but reasoning from his point of view I would want to be there because they offer the most. Plus I have no reservations in recommending LSU because of the quality of the development there and the history (KNOWN HISTORY OF SUCCESS). #NFLU
Natural talent is not enough.... ever.
Posted on 9/25/15 at 9:30 am to thunderbird1100
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Both do?
yes. For example, would you consider LSU DBU? Did you think when we had Ron Cooper that he was a great DB coach? Better than whoever was the DB coach at UH? I'm going to guess yes on all of the above, but DJ Hayden, from Houston was the 12th pick in the 2013 draft, ahead of any DB LSU had drafted that year and after he had a life-threatening injury during the 2012 season. If you have talent the NFL will find you.
Posted on 9/25/15 at 9:30 am to Bige11
Yes tbird but there really is no comparison.
Posted on 9/25/15 at 9:36 am to H-Town Tiger
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yes. For example, would you consider LSU DBU? Did you think when we had Ron Cooper that he was a great DB coach? Better than whoever was the DB coach at UH? I'm going to guess yes on all of the above, but DJ Hayden, from Houston was the 12th pick in the 2013 draft, ahead of any DB LSU had drafted that year and after he had a life-threatening injury during the 2012 season. If you have talent the NFL will find you.
If you have talent the NFL will find you: YES! but you have to develop it. Sounds like UH did a good job with Hayden, and I am sure that they have some good coaches (maybe as good technically as LSU). NOT THE POINT. The point is that LSU has proven it over and over again and playing the odds why would you not select the school that gives you the best chance?
Posted on 9/25/15 at 9:41 am to Bige11
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The known commodity being that Coach O has proven himself by getting kids to the NFL.
yep, that's a big plus for LSU , but so have many other coaches. We sent plenty of guys to the NFL with Brick Haley so wouldn't UT also be a good option?
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Natural talent is not enough.... ever.
Of course not, I never said he could make the NFL with zero coaching. But grat talent will always win out.
Look at it this way, Would you agree that Ed O is a better DL coach than Brick Haley? LSU had several DL drafted with Haley including high first rounders. Just because Ed O might be better doesn't mean others can't be good or adequate coaches as well.
What I always find ironic about these discussions is, if coaching is what matters the most, then you literally should not care who we sign. If Lawrence signs with Bama, we should just be able to go get a 3* and it would fine with better coaching and a known history of success.
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The point is that LSU has proven it over and over again and playing the odds why would you not select the school that gives you the best chance?
because it is not a card game, so "odds" don't matter. Talent is the most important factor BY A WIDE MARGIN. There is no way someone gets a job at a D1 school like UH that literally can not coach or is so bad he retards a players development. There is a lot that goes into development and coaching is a big piece, but so is ability to learn and study film, S&C etc.
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Posted on 9/25/15 at 9:43 am to Bige11
the kid we signed at ot this year was oliver's teammate. oliver helped us to get him (westerby) or he would have gone to arky. oliver is ours 1) if he decides not to go to uh snd 2) if we don't have too many 5* dts that scare him off.
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