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re: 3 remaining spots left. Who will end up as the 3rd commit?
Posted on 1/31/18 at 10:52 am to LSUstephen17
Posted on 1/31/18 at 10:52 am to LSUstephen17
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-Goodrich sounds like he’s headed out of state
I don't think Missouri was even in the picture.
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Posted on 1/31/18 at 10:54 am to jdawg
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Shea did a segment on a local show in Lafayette yesterday. He said that he wouldn't be surprised if LSU didn't sign that 25th person if they indeed whiff on Goodrich and Foster. That schollie can be used for a transfer or juco guy at a later date.
This might happen
Posted on 1/31/18 at 11:54 am to jdawg
That was my thought. Save the last one for a transfer or later signee
Posted on 1/31/18 at 11:58 am to jdawg
Or couldn't LSU sign 26 next year?
Posted on 1/31/18 at 12:28 pm to higgsBoson
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Not anymore. Can’t back count it.
yes they can:
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Dandy Don’s Q&A with Blair Napolitano on 25-Signing Cap, Transfers, Walk-ons, and More Posted 1/21/18 - By Scott Long and Jim Kleinpeter Ever since the NCAA instituted a few policy changes and the early signing period, there has been a lot of uncertainty about the so-called 25-signing cap. What does this mean for back-counting mid-term enrollees, for transfers, and for managing a roster of 85 scholarship players when there is unexpected attrition? In order to clear it all up, we at DandyDon.com reached out to Blair Napolitano, LSU's Assistant Athletic Director for Compliance, who was very gracious in supplying these definitive answers. Dandy Don: LSU signed 21 players in the early signing period, including graduate transfer kicker Cole Tracy. How many more players can LSU sign in this 2018 class? Napolitano: Four. LSU used all of its allotted 25 slots for the 2017 signing class. Dandy Don: What are the rules pertaining to signing more than 25 and have they changed? In the past, teams could sign more than 25 initial counters per year by back-counting early enrollees to the previous class if that class had not signed its full 25. Can this still be done, or is back-counting in this way no longer allowed since the rule changes in April? Napolitano: A school can sign more than 25 recruits provided it did not use all 25 signing slots in the previous signing class. In order to be counted in the previous signing class, the signee has to enroll at mid-term and replace a current student-athlete that graduated in December or the previous academic year. There is a change in the rules. Athletes who sign in a particular class are locked into that signing class whether or not they enroll in that fall. Schools can no longer count gray shirts or players placed in junior colleges in future signing classes once they sign the letter of intent with a particular group. Dandy Don: Do all transfers (graduate transfers and undergraduate transfers) count toward the signing limitation per class? Napolitano: Yes. Any incoming student enrolling at LSU for the first time – graduate transfer, undergraduate transfers (junior college and four-year) or any high school student – count toward the 25 for that year. For instance, DT Breiden Fehoko, who transferred to LSU from Texas Tech after the 2016 season, counts in the Tigers' 2017 signing class from last February. Dandy Don: Let's say a team signs its full 25 initial counters and still doesn't have its full allotment of 85 scholarship players. Is there any way other than awarding scholarships to walk-ons that the team can use its remaining scholarships?. Napolitano: No. Dandy Don:Can a player walk-on to the team and then immediately receive a scholarship if one is available, or must he be part of the team for a specified period of time before being eligible to receive a scholarship? Napolitano: A walk-on student can immediately receive a scholarship if one is available but they would be an initial counter (1 of 25). A student would have to have been not recruited and in school at the awarding institution for at least two years in order to not count as an initial counter.
This post was edited on 1/31/18 at 12:38 pm
Posted on 1/31/18 at 12:33 pm to 1723lale
I would rather hold it for 2019 class.
But if we don't, maybe a project OL. Like an athletic but too skinny guy or something. Or even just a big body.
I like padding the trenches
But if we don't, maybe a project OL. Like an athletic but too skinny guy or something. Or even just a big body.
I like padding the trenches
Posted on 1/31/18 at 2:19 pm to Bottom9
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With all due respect to this dude, we have a good bit of TEs already on the roster. I'd rather take Ardarius Washington over Beal. Moreau - SR Washington - SR Moss - SO Pettigrew - SO Moffit - FR Sheffer - FR
What does Moreau, Washington, Pettigrew and Moffit have to do with this? None of them will be on the team when this guys is expected to contribute.
Posted on 1/31/18 at 2:41 pm to lsufanva
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I think we can still swing Goodrich if we plan the visit right and blow him away. Dabo and crew could also but that's the beauty.
I've got mixed feelings on the last spot. Don't want Beal unless the plan from jump is OT. Add his frame and ability to move with Wires and that's quite a duo for the new OL coach to mold into studs. I'll take that. No TE
Washington would be fine but not sexy. I thought he could be a contributor earlier so no reason to not think so now.
If we don't have a surprise guy to press under wraps then my preference is to hold the scholarship as long as needed. Scour the country looking for a CB whether a late blooming hs kid, juco kid or transfer that the staff thinks can help and get him. If no one emerges,hold it until 19.
I hope we do pull Goodrich. I know Surtain is the heralded recruit, but Goodrichs' film is incredible. People thought Toliver was the next great can't miss type recruit, and Greedy is the standout.
I am not saying that Surtain will be a bust, but I think Goodrich is a must get, and would absolutely take him over Foster (though I believe in taking a QB every class, he is a project that would take a minimum of 3 years to develop and I'd rather take 2 next year to take Goodrich.)
If not, I am with you, take Beal as a OT (I prefer him there over TE, and think he would be a great OT after a few years of development). I like Michael Williams next if not Beal, but O already "O"ver recruited those numbers on the DL, but he would have made a great SDE or MLB in the mold of Beckwith(film is similar). So that ship has sailed as far as numbers - though we could possibly pull him from Texas I think its a moot point now.
So for me, Goodrich first if possible, then Beal as an OT, and if not save the scholarship for a transfer, JUCO, graduate, or late bloomer
Posted on 1/31/18 at 2:46 pm to tubucoco
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No way you move Beal to the OL, kid is too athletic for his size. He'll make a natural pass catching TE, and I think he can be an excellent blocker at TE also. He just has that prototypical NFL TE size that he'll be highly sought after if LSU intends on employing a passing offense like Ensminger is saying.
This kid would be a jumbo TE, and would be great in the position, much like Dillon Gordon, who was vastly underutilized, but his value is much higher as an OT.
Most of the best tackles start out as jumbo TE's, the have the size in highschool as a jumbo TE, but their athleticism makes them valuable as a pass catcher. However, with his athleticism if he adds muscles mass on his already large frame, and his weight has neglible affects on his athleticism, then he is much more valuable in college as an OT. His skill set and size with added weight is perfect for the pass rushing specialists like Myles Garret, Key, Tim Williams, etc.
The converted athletic jumbo TE's are the perfect counter to the best pass rushing WDE's as the size isnt as important as the wingspan, quick feet, athleticism and power needed to neutralize the elite rushing ends.
Posted on 1/31/18 at 2:53 pm to 0
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Hopefully a qb. I know Brennan and narcisse Ard looked at favorably but with the where cfb is at whose to say one doesn’t transfer when they don’t win the job. Need to sign one every year.
Generally I would agree with you, but I believe Narcisse and Brennan should both play in different packages. Put Narcisse in versus teams with higher rates of blitz packages, defenses built for the pass, less beef and more speed, playing nickle and dime packages. Let him run the option or when utilizing RPO offense, and in red zone packages. Brennan gets all the long drives and teams with beef upfront, but limited pass rush. If they both stay, the need for a QB this class is reduced, and Foster may be a 4-6 out of 10 for his position while Goodrich is a legit 9-10 out of 10 in a position of need.
Ideally, I would have skipped Travez Moore and Foster would have his spot, and also taken Goodrich.
I actually love the class Coach O signed, but Moore was not as needed as Foster. Coach O got a bit D-line happy, just as he used to at Ole Miss, and stacked it up a bit more than necessary in this case. It was the first time for an early signing period, so I will give him a pass on this class, but its clear in retrospect that the ideal thing would have been to leave Moore off the board, and sign both Foster and Goodrich if it were possible.
Posted on 1/31/18 at 3:02 pm to BillyBobBlitzkrieg
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This kid would be a jumbo TE, and would be great in the position, much like Dillon Gordon, who was vastly underutilized, but his value is much higher as an OT.
Most of the best tackles start out as jumbo TE's, the have the size in highschool as a jumbo TE, but their athleticism makes them valuable as a pass catcher. However, with his athleticism if he adds muscles mass on his already large frame, and his weight has neglible affects on his athleticism, then he is much more valuable in college as an OT. His skill set and size with added weight is perfect for the pass rushing specialists like Myles Garret, Key, Tim Williams, etc.
The converted athletic jumbo TE's are the perfect counter to the best pass rushing WDE's as the size isnt as important as the wingspan, quick feet, athleticism and power needed to neutralize the elite rushing ends.
Gordon should've become a LT years ago.
The perfect example of this is Jason Peters. Athletically gifted, played TE in college, then put on 50 lbs. to become an all-pro LT.
Posted on 1/31/18 at 3:06 pm to Penrod
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What does Moreau, Washington, Pettigrew and Moffit have to do with this? None of them will be on the team when this guys is expected to contribute.
You serious? Maybe the fact that you know, I'm stating that we have depth at that position.
IMO DB is a bigger need right now.
Posted on 1/31/18 at 3:46 pm to BillyBobBlitzkrieg
Take Foster...... I think we would be gambling:::::: if Narcisse goes down,,,, you have 1 legitimate QB. I don't like that risk. that is scary IMO.
This post was edited on 1/31/18 at 5:39 pm
Posted on 1/31/18 at 4:10 pm to LSUstephen17
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-Foster I have no idea about and curious if we’re eveb recruiting in him hard
Coach O, Ensminger, Joseph, Robinson, and Cregg came to see Foster today.
This post was edited on 2/1/18 at 12:49 pm
Posted on 1/31/18 at 4:30 pm to TheCaterpillar
quote:I agree. I think he would have been an uphill project, but only from a coaching-technique perspective. The frame, IQ, feet are all there. So was the mass by his last year.
Gordon should've become a LT years ago.
quote:again, agreed. You can improve the skill set/agility with drills, but you can't create it. Start with that and frame, build with technique and plates/training table from there.
Most of the best tackles start out as jumbo TE's, the have the size in highschool as a jumbo TE, but their athleticism makes them valuable as a pass catcher. However, with his athleticism if he adds muscles mass on his already large frame, and his weight has neglible affects on his athleticism, then he is much more valuable in college as an OT. His skill set and size with added weight is perfect for the pass rushing specialists like Myles Garret, Key, Tim Williams, etc.
Posted on 2/1/18 at 10:23 am to LSUstephen17
Why did we cool on Harold Joiner?
Posted on 2/1/18 at 10:31 am to Ooh Wee Ooh
limited spots in 2018 recruiting class, 2019 loaded with top shelf RBs w high interest in LSU, grades
Posted on 2/1/18 at 10:42 am to geauxGreeks
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limited spots in 2018 recruiting class
We have a 3rd spot to fill.
quote:Joiner was a top 200 recruit with high interest in LSU. Putting all our eggs in the 2019 class is a huge gamble.
2019 loaded with top shelf RBs w high interest in LSU
Posted on 2/1/18 at 11:21 am to Ooh Wee Ooh
Can someone tell me the latest with ArDarius Washington? I read that he could be a grades risk? If so, that gives us 4 available spots. Joseph, Surtain, Foster, and who?
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