- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
2020 Dline vs 2019 dline
Posted on 1/17/19 at 1:53 pm
Posted on 1/17/19 at 1:53 pm
Looking at the 2020 crop of DLineman we are in shape to take 4 of the top 15 in next years class. I understand trying to recapture territory from Bama in amite but talent wise it would be smarter to grab any another dline player this year to roll with Ika instead of taking ish and his brother then load up with 2020 guys. McKinney Jackson a former early commit is the top rated dlineman like ish. I say take devonta lee and grab five others and let ish and company go have success together somewhere else
Posted on 1/17/19 at 1:56 pm to biggdogg
The point is that our chances of landing Sop are much higher than getting Moore, Pickering, and Young. I mean besides we aren’t gonna be struggling to make room in this class. It should filll out nicely.
This post was edited on 1/17/19 at 1:57 pm
Posted on 1/17/19 at 2:27 pm to TheTexasTiger7
Crystal balls coming in for Henry To'oto'o to Tennessee now. I think we were all considering him a lock to take one of bama's spots.
Sucks. I think saban is doing all he can to keep us from getting anymore of the DL we're after this cycle.
If he gets, Ish, Pickering and Young, I'm going to be very unhappy. Sick of this crap...makes no sense that so many guys from a position would all pick the same school in the same class...I just don't believe it.
I hope we turn up the heat on Fuller, too.
Sucks. I think saban is doing all he can to keep us from getting anymore of the DL we're after this cycle.
If he gets, Ish, Pickering and Young, I'm going to be very unhappy. Sick of this crap...makes no sense that so many guys from a position would all pick the same school in the same class...I just don't believe it.
I hope we turn up the heat on Fuller, too.
Posted on 1/17/19 at 2:35 pm to biggdogg
LSU is not at the point in which we can make use of 25 scholarships on high quality prospects. Taking the two Sopshers costs us one scholarship that we would have given to a Terrance Alexander, or a hard working walk on. Big deal.
Posted on 1/17/19 at 3:10 pm to biggdogg
You can’t leave gaps in recruiting like this.
We’ve recruited 5 DEs the last 3 years
4 of them were 3*s
We can’t just rely on freshmen in 2020 and I dont see any studs so far from the last 3 classes at DE
We’ve recruited 5 DEs the last 3 years
4 of them were 3*s
We can’t just rely on freshmen in 2020 and I dont see any studs so far from the last 3 classes at DE
Posted on 1/17/19 at 7:16 pm to SammyTiger
quote:
You can’t leave gaps in recruiting like this.
We’ve recruited 5 DEs the last 3 years
4 of them were 3*s
We can’t just rely on freshmen in 2020 and I dont see any studs so far from the last 3 classes at DE
100% agree with you...I'm surprised LSU fans have forgotten that Les did this on the lines, as well...we're lacking bigly in the SDE and OT departments.
Posted on 1/17/19 at 9:49 pm to biggdogg
Taking Rodney Sop is not a huge deal like people are making it out to be. He’s not a four year guy. He may only end up being a one year guy. There’s plenty of guys that wasted four year schoolys for one reason or another and we got absolutely nothing out of them or they just transferred.
Posted on 1/17/19 at 11:47 pm to biggdogg
No question so far O has come up short recruiting the position we all thought would be his bread and butter. Some of that is because LA didn’t have many DL in a class and some have been misses. The 4 biggest that come to mind are Isaiah Buggs, Raekwon Davis, Marvin Wilson and Phidarian Mathis. This is an entirely different defense with those 4 on the team right now. The good news is Ika is without a doubt a future bright spot along with Shelvin and we return a veteran battle tested d-line for next year. Lawrence and Fehoko should have the best year of their careers and there is solid depth guys behind to rotate in like Glen Logan, Neil Farrel and Davin Cotton. The 2020 class along with hopefully Sophser and someone like Byron Young will replinesh the loss of Lawrence, Fehoko and Logan after the season. I like where LSU is heading and I think we are going to see the rewards sooner rather than later.
Posted on 1/18/19 at 7:46 am to LSU_30A
Ed Oliver
Jerry Tillery
Also, it's been like 4 years since we've had a legit OT.
Jerry Tillery
Also, it's been like 4 years since we've had a legit OT.
Posted on 1/18/19 at 7:51 am to biggdogg
As long as we sign 1 more CB to close I'm fine with whatever linemen they want although I still think it's a mistake to take Rodney if they have to to get Ish, if we end up with Ish and didnt burn a scholly a Rodney, then that's a big time win. Pickering seems like a ridiculous long shot and Young seems a little more likely based on recent events.
Alabama losing everyone should be an easy recruiting pitch for us to Ish, Young, Pickering, etc...
I dont think we turn down any one of those 3, including Charles Moore too. But in all honesty we dont NEED 3 more defensive linemen this class from a numbers standpoint because the 2020 class is strong and we already have a ton of defensive linemen. It'd be a bit silly to have like 14-15 defensive linemen on scholarship.
Alabama losing everyone should be an easy recruiting pitch for us to Ish, Young, Pickering, etc...
I dont think we turn down any one of those 3, including Charles Moore too. But in all honesty we dont NEED 3 more defensive linemen this class from a numbers standpoint because the 2020 class is strong and we already have a ton of defensive linemen. It'd be a bit silly to have like 14-15 defensive linemen on scholarship.
This post was edited on 1/18/19 at 7:53 am
Posted on 1/18/19 at 7:55 am to biggdogg
If LSU and Oregon ore the only two offering, then take Rodney’s scholarship and move it to next year like Alabama is doing. That is smart for more reasons than one.
Also, Orgeron probably isn’t willin. To hedge his bets on McKinley Jackson or any other recruit for 2020 when we are taking about the last 5-6 in Jan 2019.
Take Ishmael only, unless you get Pickering, young or the other miss. Guy.
Ishmael has not played this very well at all.
Also, Orgeron probably isn’t willin. To hedge his bets on McKinley Jackson or any other recruit for 2020 when we are taking about the last 5-6 in Jan 2019.
Take Ishmael only, unless you get Pickering, young or the other miss. Guy.
Ishmael has not played this very well at all.
Posted on 1/18/19 at 7:57 am to thunderbird1100
quote:
I dont think we turn down any one of those 3, including Charles Moore too. But in all honesty we dont NEED 3 more defensive linemen this class from a numbers standpoint because the 2020 class is strong and we already have a ton of defensive linemen. It'd be a bit silly to have like 14-15 defensive linemen on scholarship.
I just hope our coaches don't feel this way. I do not believe they do.
As of right now, what does our two-deep DL look like in 2020, in your opinion? Focus on SDE...hopefully you'll see what I see.
We need SDE's in THIS class...as many quality ones as we can get. With Ika in this class and then Guillory in the next, we're okay at NT.
Posted on 1/18/19 at 7:59 am to thunderbird1100
Our three cornerbacks we signed, everybody knows what stingley is, and flott and Ray has been given very high praise (plus look at their offer list, screw what rankings say). We will be fine there
With Lawrence and fehoko coming back, DL will be solid next year, if shelvin and Livingston continue to grind and become contributors, our line will be ridiculous.
The only reason I’m saying forget ish is because next year we are in the running for most of the top DT in the country. We all know coach O can lock down recruits, especially if we are going to be thin at DL and the kids see immediate playing time.. we don’t need ish this year, especially wasting a scholly on his bro year
With Lawrence and fehoko coming back, DL will be solid next year, if shelvin and Livingston continue to grind and become contributors, our line will be ridiculous.
The only reason I’m saying forget ish is because next year we are in the running for most of the top DT in the country. We all know coach O can lock down recruits, especially if we are going to be thin at DL and the kids see immediate playing time.. we don’t need ish this year, especially wasting a scholly on his bro year
Posted on 1/18/19 at 8:02 am to PenguinPubes
quote:
The only reason I’m saying forget ish is because next year we are in the running for most of the top DT in the country. We all know coach O can lock down recruits, especially if we are going to be thin at DL and the kids see immediate playing time.. we don’t need ish this year, especially wasting a scholly on his bro year
As of right now, we're going to be very thin at SDE in 2020...if O can lock down recruits when we're thin at DL, he needs to do that right now with guys like Pickering, Young, Moore, Ish, and Fuller. If we don't hit on at least one of these to go with Evans at SDE in this class, we're going to feel it in 2020, and it will be discussed heavily on this board heading into that season.
We need SDE's and OT's right now.
Posted on 1/18/19 at 8:03 am to OppositeMan
Also low on safeties unless Jacoby and potentially Dev Lee play there.
Posted on 1/18/19 at 8:07 am to OppositeMan
I get that, but do we waste two schollys on someone who has been reported as lazy without a real work ethic?
Posted on 1/18/19 at 8:09 am to dstone12
quote:
Also low on safeties unless Jacoby and potentially Dev Lee play there.
I guess it's becoming an issue. I think we should take 2-3 in the next class. It looks like Brooks is our safety in this class, and Hampton might still make it, too. I'll leave him off, though...here's what we got:
Delpit
Stevens
Harris
Joseph
Monroe
Brooks
Lewis
I do think Stevens stays at safety, and I think Lee starts at WR and then moves to OLB.
Speaking of OLB, I wouldn't mind seeing what Queen can do in Divinity's role. I think the Sam is where we all thought guys like Stevens, Brooks and Lee could play, too, if they bulked up enough.
Posted on 1/18/19 at 8:11 am to PenguinPubes
quote:
I get that, but do we waste two schollys on someone who has been reported as lazy without a real work ethic?
Yeah...he has a very, very high ceiling. Do we believe O can't motivate him?
You would take the deal assuming we can't get any of the other SDE's we're after, right?
We really can't whiff at not taking anymore SDE's in the class, man....look at 2020...I know I keep saying it. If you don't see what I see, I'll list our 2020 SDE depth for you. Want me to do that?
Posted on 1/18/19 at 8:12 am to OppositeMan
We only lose delpit early to the draft, we’ll be fine, but we need a couple next year for sure.
Can’t wait to see how brooks does in camp, everything I’ve read he is the next Adams/delpit
Can’t wait to see how brooks does in camp, everything I’ve read he is the next Adams/delpit
Posted on 1/18/19 at 8:22 am to OppositeMan
quote:
As of right now, what does our two-deep DL look like in 2020, in your opinion? Focus on SDE...hopefully you'll see what I see.
In 2 years?
Impossible to know, but again, it's kind of silly if we built up 14-15 scholarship players for 3 spots totally neglecting other positions like CB. There needs to be some balance. I dont thin kwe turn down any of the aforementioned DLinemen, but we also dont NEED 3 more from a numbers standpoint with 2020 recruiting and what we currently have.
If we take 5 defensive linemen this class, we need to cut like at least 2 or 3 from current roster.
This post was edited on 1/18/19 at 8:29 am
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News