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What fertilizer do I want to use?
Posted on 4/2/20 at 11:12 am
Posted on 4/2/20 at 11:12 am
Have both centipede and st aug, have most weeds gone at this point, think now is the time to fertilize, what should I go with?
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Posted on 4/2/20 at 11:17 am to Theboot32
Start with a soil test.
Centipede does not need much nitrogen, over-fertilization can lead to issues down the road.
If you have money get a complete formula with a micros package, like LESCO 24-2-11+micro.
Or if you’re OT-baller status, a greens-grade fertilizer or polymer-coated slow release.
Ironite will get you a deep green color.
Edit: Crawdude had the right LESCO analysis, I was thinking of Agri-AFC turf analysis.
Centipede does not need much nitrogen, over-fertilization can lead to issues down the road.
If you have money get a complete formula with a micros package, like LESCO 24-2-11+micro.
Or if you’re OT-baller status, a greens-grade fertilizer or polymer-coated slow release.
Ironite will get you a deep green color.
Edit: Crawdude had the right LESCO analysis, I was thinking of Agri-AFC turf analysis.
This post was edited on 4/3/20 at 7:16 am
Posted on 4/2/20 at 11:36 am to Theboot32
As Gold said fertilize the centipede at 1/2 the rate (1/2 lb N per 1000 sq ft) of St Augustine (1 lb N per 1000 sq ft). I use LESCO 24-2-11 40% Polycoat purchased at Site One Landscape Suppy for $26 for 50 lb bag. That equates to 4 lbs for St Aug and 2 lbs for centipede per 1000 sq ft, I assume your St Aug and Centipede are not mixed.
Where you located and what do you have available to you?
Soil test for baseline fertility is always good info to have but the LSU AgCenter soil testing lab is shut down now b/c of CV but you can have that done later. .
Where you located and what do you have available to you?
Soil test for baseline fertility is always good info to have but the LSU AgCenter soil testing lab is shut down now b/c of CV but you can have that done later. .
Posted on 4/2/20 at 12:13 pm to CrawDude
I'm in mandeville, we have a site one here.
The centipede and st aug are sort of mixed, the part by the road is centipede, apparently when they put in underground drainage they used centipede sod, but my yard had st aug everywhere else. Probably 15 feet from the road is centipede then the rest is st aug.
The centipede and st aug are sort of mixed, the part by the road is centipede, apparently when they put in underground drainage they used centipede sod, but my yard had st aug everywhere else. Probably 15 feet from the road is centipede then the rest is st aug.
Posted on 4/2/20 at 2:11 pm to Theboot32
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I'm in mandeville, we have a site one here. The centipede and st aug are sort of mixed, the part by the road is centipede, apparently when they put in underground drainage they used centipede sod, but my yard had st aug everywhere else. Probably 15 feet from the road is centipede then the rest is st aug.
If it was me, I’d just use the higher rate 4 lbs of the LESCO 24–2-11 per 1000 sq ft on the whole yard, and I suspect in time the St Aug will displace the centipede. I see that happening in one of my side yards where I have a blend. I have basic soil in BR which favors St Augustine. If you have an acidic soil in Mandeville which favors centipede then maybe the opposite will happen.
Posted on 4/3/20 at 7:52 am to CrawDude
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If it was me, I’d just use the higher rate 4 lbs of the LESCO 24–2-11 per 1000 sq ft on the whole yard, and I suspect in time the St Aug will displace the centipede. I see that happening in one of my side yards where I have a blend. I have basic soil in BR which favors St Augustine. If you have an acidic soil in Mandeville which favors centipede then maybe the opposite will happen.
Sounds good, I have some barer spots, hoping the st aug will spread more. not sure what the previous owner did at all, but doesnt look like much
Posted on 4/3/20 at 9:12 am to Theboot32
I have the same issue, I want to encourage the St. Aug to take over. I’ve read a couple places that putting a light layer of sand on bare spots helps. Knowing how St. Aug runs across concrete I’m going to try that and put down another dusting of lime (which helped last summer).
Posted on 4/3/20 at 9:26 am to Icansee4miles
Also cutting your St Aug at the recommended height of 3 to 3 1/3 inches should help to displace the centipede over time. Centipede recommendation for mowing height is 1 1/2 to 2 inches.
Posted on 4/3/20 at 3:30 pm to CrawDude
Yeah I've been keeping it high, just put my fertilizer down, pumped to see what it does, first spring I've been able to treat my yard, hoping for some good results.
Side note: how long is the msm turf mixture I have already mixed in my sprayer good for? I made 2 gallons but only wound up using about half, was hoping it would still be good for a follow up spray next week. Just now beginning to see some browning on the weeds I hit
Side note: how long is the msm turf mixture I have already mixed in my sprayer good for? I made 2 gallons but only wound up using about half, was hoping it would still be good for a follow up spray next week. Just now beginning to see some browning on the weeds I hit
Posted on 4/3/20 at 4:46 pm to Theboot32
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Side note: how long is the msm turf mixture I have already mixed in my sprayer good for? I made 2 gallons but only wound up using about half, was hoping it would still be good for a follow up spray next week.
The label says it degrades in 24 hours in an acid solution mix and should be discarded. But in an alkaline solution it is stable, just need to be shaken before re-use. Baton Rouge city water is alkaline, with a pH of around 8.4 to 8.7. You know the pH of your city water?
Posted on 4/3/20 at 5:06 pm to CrawDude
I can find out, thanks
Also, regarding the fertilizer, should I reapply at some point or just once this year?
Really appreciate your help CrawDude!
Also, regarding the fertilizer, should I reapply at some point or just once this year?
Really appreciate your help CrawDude!
Posted on 4/3/20 at 5:32 pm to Theboot32
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Also, regarding the fertilizer, should I reapply at some point or just once this year?
St Augustine responds well to fertilizer, unlike centipede, so the recommendation in the Deep South (university based recommendations) is 3 or 4 times. April, June, and Aug, each with 1 lb of N per 1000 sq ft. Some will do another in Oct - that’s iffy to to me but not in really warm climates where the St Aug does not go completely dormant.
But the choice of how many time you fertilize is ultimately yours. I’ll always do a minimum of 2, but usually 3 (on St Augustine). My centipede front yard never gets more than 2, April and June, and at 1/2 the rate St Aug gets.
Keeping a healthy actively growing, thick lawn, is a incredibly good method of weed control/suppression, so what you pay in additional cost of fertilizer, may be off-set with less $$ in herbicide purchases.
This post was edited on 4/3/20 at 9:44 pm
Posted on 4/4/20 at 3:05 pm to Theboot32
Posted on 4/5/20 at 5:46 pm to Theboot32
I use Lesco 15-0-15. I’ve always been told centipede and St Aug don’t like phosphate which is the middle number. Right on the bag it says for St Aug and centipede. Time release formula and works for 90 days. It’s good stuff. Has 3% iron in it to get your yard nice and green.
Posted on 4/5/20 at 5:56 pm to Earthquake 88
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I use Lesco 15-0-15. I’ve always been told centipede and St Aug don’t like phosphate which is the middle number. Right on the bag it says for St Aug and centipede. Time release formula and works for 90 days. It’s good stuff. Has 3% iron in it to get your yard nice and green.
Good lawn fertilizer formulation. Where do you buy it from?
Posted on 4/5/20 at 10:24 pm to CrawDude
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Good lawn fertilizer formulation. Where do you buy it from?
Fertilome has a 15-0-15 that I got from Cleggs a month ago... slow release and 3% iron
I put down half bag rate for a split app 1 month apart... got some weeds to kill in between and dont want them sucking up all the nutrients
Posted on 4/6/20 at 9:02 am to TheArrogantCorndog
I used that Fertilome 15-0-15 on my centipede for years prior to moving to LESCO fertilizer - switched primarily due to price. My Site One Landscape Supply doesn’t carry the LESCO 15-0-15, but rather a 15-5-15, though I see a LESCO 15-0-15 on Home Depot website, I’ve never seen it in stores in SE BR. That why I was curious who the poster was purchasing the LESCO 15-0-15 product from.
Posted on 4/7/20 at 7:45 pm to CrawDude
Home Depot is the only one I know that stocks it and I believe some John Deere places do. I may be wrong but it seems like someone once told me John Deere may own Lesco. It’s good stuff and since it’s time released I only have to fertilize twice in a growing season.
Posted on 4/7/20 at 7:55 pm to TheArrogantCorndog
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Fertilome has a 15-0-15 that I got from Cleggs a month ago... slow release and 3% iron
I’ve never used Fertilome but I’ve heard a lot of people on this board last spring say it’s good too. I think most professional yard people usually use Lesco or Fertilome. I don’t really care for Scott’s fertilizer. Every time I see a bag of that Scott’s it always has 29% nitrogen in it. That’s way to much nitrogen for the grass we grow on the coast. That kind of nitrogen works best on bermuda grass. I once lived in Little Rock and all the yards up there were mostly bermuda. You have to pour the nitrogen on bermuda to green it up and it likes 3-4 feedings in a growing season. You will go broke up there trying to keep a green yard.
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