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re: We decided to install a pool...

Posted on 7/29/22 at 4:41 pm to
Posted by rltiger
Metairie
Member since Oct 2004
1887 posts
Posted on 7/29/22 at 4:41 pm to
Go with a sand filter.

Had cartridge filters until 4 years ago. Only difference with sand is I don't have to clean cartridges anymore. Water is the same, crystal clear. Sand filter you rinse and backwash by turning a handle.

I like the salt better than chlorine.

Get a heater/chiller. Extends pool use months, practically year round in Metairie.

I also like the remote that turns on and off pumps features. Gives pool temps and salinity.

Needed a drain switch to pump water out after big storms, works off the remote.

Have the Polaris 280 pool cleaner. They work great, no electrical and after 5-7 years you can buy the rebuild kit from Amazon and replace all the worn plastic parts for practically nothing.

Get a pool guy so you don't have to screw with 90% of it.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
91120 posts
Posted on 7/29/22 at 5:24 pm to
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website says it does not clean the waterline. In your experience, does it do a decent job at that? What about steps?
I'll try to get a video next time it's going. I have a liner pool and it crawls out of the water like a damn creature and hits the edge of the pool deck at a 45 degree angle then turns horizonal and runs along the edge half in/half out of the water for about 5-6 feet before it drops back in.

I have 4 fiberglass steps and the top step is dry right now because of the damn heat wave. It cleans the 3rd and 4th steps but doesn't really get the top 2. I just brush the grit and dirt off with my foot when I get in if there's any there so it's down in the pool for it to get the next time.

In short it gets the bottom 2 steps but not the top 2.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
91120 posts
Posted on 7/29/22 at 5:27 pm to
quote:

Had cartridge filters until 4 years ago. Only difference with sand is I don't have to clean cartridges anymore. Water is the same, crystal clear. Sand filter you rinse and backwash by turning a handle.
I'll put it this way. You can clean a sand filter in roughly 30 seconds wearing a tuxedo and holding a martini in the other hand. Then maybe....maybe after 8 years you can swap out for fresh sand. That's all you ever have to do.

Cartridge filters... Not so much ... Not so much.
This post was edited on 7/29/22 at 5:29 pm
Posted by whatshisface
Westside
Member since Jun 2012
277 posts
Posted on 7/30/22 at 7:51 am to
What's something like that running you nowadays?
Posted by geauxdroddz
Member since Nov 2016
2110 posts
Posted on 8/1/22 at 11:28 am to
~85k.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
36572 posts
Posted on 8/1/22 at 11:46 am to
i just finished mine in june, i was at 100k before turf and brick.

basic gunite is around 75-80k, 85-90k with hot tub.

add in gas and electrical and before stone work you are easily in the 6 figure range.

These are from before i finished laying the sod, hanging TV, getting new patio furinture etc.



This post was edited on 8/1/22 at 11:51 am
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
91120 posts
Posted on 8/1/22 at 11:54 am to


tight and congrats on the low maintenance turf and rocks. i envy yards like that.

gunite, tanning deck, built-in hot tub, maytronic dolphin, water feature..you're a damn walking Ad for the Home/Garden board.

well done.

eta can't see the lighting. what did you go with underwater?
This post was edited on 8/1/22 at 12:05 pm
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
36572 posts
Posted on 8/1/22 at 12:01 pm to
quote:

tight and congrats on the low maintenance turf and rocks. i envy yards like that.

gunite, tanning deck, built-in hot tub, maytronic, water feature, dolphin..you're a damn walking Ad for the Home/Garden board.

well done.




haha thanks man



quote:

eta can't see the lighting. what did you go with underwater?


yea went with underwater leds in the pool and in the hot tub. i had similar on last house, have the screenlogic app that allows me to control everything.


also earlier this month, while on vacation we had them drain and cut in tile strip on the top 3 steps, the ledge, tanning ledge and around the hot tub seat to add a little something so its not so plain. Ill try and snap a couple pics today that show it.

This post was edited on 8/1/22 at 12:02 pm
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
91120 posts
Posted on 8/1/22 at 12:08 pm to
anyone who tells you this adds zero value to your home if you ever decide to sell is smoking crack.

here in TN, our realtor estimated a pool increases a home's value by 200k. the comps have born that out as well. now part of that is due to the 'covid effect' as well as builders being backed up for 1-2 years on new installs but still, people want pools these days and willing to pay a premium to get one.

this is coming from someone who sold a house with a pool and bought a new house with a pool..essentially a wash on the value of buying/selling property with a pool.
Posted by MEd LSU
Member since Dec 2018
3687 posts
Posted on 8/1/22 at 12:16 pm to
What type of sod?
Looks amazing!
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
36572 posts
Posted on 8/1/22 at 12:18 pm to
quote:

anyone who tells you this adds zero value to your home if you ever decide to sell is smoking crack.

here in TN, our realtor estimated a pool increases a home's value by 200k. the comps have born that out as well. now part of that is due to the 'covid effect' as well as builders being backed up for 1-2 years on new installs but still, people want pools these days and willing to pay a premium to get one.

this is coming from someone who sold a house with a pool and bought a new house with a pool..essentially a wash on the value of buying/selling property with a pool.


we put a gunite pool and huge cypress back patio on our last house which we sold in march 2020. figured we got back about 70% of the cost, but the new owners just listed the house today fro another 120k over what they paid us and much of that is due to the demand houses with pools have because like you mentioned, covid, housing inventory etc.

the new house is my forever home unless i hit loterry or i want to downsize in about 20 years.
Posted by geauxdroddz
Member since Nov 2016
2110 posts
Posted on 8/1/22 at 12:21 pm to
This looks great!

We live in a very old home (1902) and has several chimneys made of red brick. I like the idea of the pool w brick coping (like yours) to match the house.

For whatever reason almost all the contractors are trying to steer me from it - this just sold me on using the bricks I think.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
36572 posts
Posted on 8/1/22 at 12:22 pm to
quote:

Looks amazing!


thank you man. appreciatte it.

quote:

What type of sod?



what you see in the picture is turf. i laid zoysia outside the turf. There is a pool drain that runs all the way around under the turf and the concrete is slightly sloped to the drain so the turf stays dry. Turf infield is really grainy sand.

plan is in about 2 years to add a gas fire pit seating area and turf the rest as a putting green.

my back yard is small but i have a decent side yard but putting a batting cage there soon so I wont have much of a yard outside the front anymore which honestly i am fine with. We have a neighborhood park to go throw in and the lot next door, nobody will ever build on(may eventually buy it). We are extremely busy people and dont have time for tons of up keep and we like low maintenance easy area that is great for entertaining.
This post was edited on 8/1/22 at 12:23 pm
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
60618 posts
Posted on 8/1/22 at 12:27 pm to
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whatever reason almost all the contractors are trying to steer me from it


In general contractors hate em because they don’t last long. Chip and crack and come loose. And a lot of times kids scratch themselves up on em getting in and out. And they snag some womens suits sitting on edge.

They are pretty though.
Posted by SATNIGHTS
Red Stick
Member since Jan 2008
2397 posts
Posted on 8/1/22 at 12:27 pm to
Salt / corrosion guy’s a question.

I have had salt for 2.5 years and have not noticed one bit of corrosion anywhere. Where are you swing yours, patio furniture, etc?
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
36572 posts
Posted on 8/1/22 at 12:29 pm to
quote:

This looks great!

We live in a very old home (1902) and has several chimneys made of red brick. I like the idea of the pool w brick coping (like yours) to match the house.

For whatever reason almost all the contractors are trying to steer me from it - this just sold me on using the bricks I think.




so our deciding factor was we were nervous travertine may not remain in style forever and it can get slick and its stupid expensive.

original plan was to use our house brick so we could tie everything together with the blue brick everyonce in a while and because we were doing the patio too. well they dont make it any more.

so we choose St Louis Reclaimed brick. cost more but it came out great. almost matches the house(makes sense because that was what we originally wanted but was too much for whole house so we got close as possible). We dont have the random baby blue in it like the house, but still works and if we wanted we could go back and add the blue paint and seal it.

I think the thing with brick is you have to do a brick that matches your house i.e. a house brick, not an old school paver(although st louis is available in paver). Dont go with the old straight red brick that dates the pool.

We love the way it came out for sure and feel like it will timeless.


btw- st louis brick does add lots of cost over other house bricks, especially if you have pavers to do, because of them being reclaimed, many (~25%) will come broken.

and turf+brick was cheaper than travertine.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
36572 posts
Posted on 8/1/22 at 12:31 pm to
quote:

In general contractors hate em because they don’t last long. Chip and crack and come loose. And a lot of times kids scratch themselves up on em getting in and out. And they snag some womens suits sitting on edge.

They are pretty though.



havent found them to come loose easy or crack easy but they will chip and yes they can be rough. I have a 11, 9, 6 year old and none of had problems with scratching, but i could see it. same with the catching the suit on the edge for sure.

i go in and out and yes i can see how you could scratch yourself, i havent at all.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
36572 posts
Posted on 8/1/22 at 12:32 pm to
quote:

Salt / corrosion guy’s a question.

I have had salt for 2.5 years and have not noticed one bit of corrosion anywhere. Where are you swing yours, patio furniture, etc?


so old house, all of my metal furniture within 20 feet or so of the pool would have corrosion to the point that the deck chairs would have to be replaced every 12-18 months.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
91120 posts
Posted on 8/1/22 at 12:36 pm to
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i go in and out and yes i can see how you could scratch yourself, i havent at all.
thats part of the damn fun. people need to quit trying to put protective bubbles around their kids.

i think its perfect and a little scrape here and there is part of the experience your kids will remember with fondness long after they're grown.

eta however, please don't ask me about the aggregate they used at the bottom of the city pool in monroe you couldn't be at the pool longer than an hour without your feet turning into raw meat. i used to cringe every time getting into that pool knowing after my feet softened up underwater they were going to get stripped raw. we used to have to wait about a month between visits to recover.
This post was edited on 8/1/22 at 12:40 pm
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
36572 posts
Posted on 8/1/22 at 12:42 pm to
quote:

eta however, please don't ask me about the aggregate they used at the bottom of the city pool in monroe you couldn't be at the pool longer than an hour without your feet turning into raw meat. i used to cringe every time getting into that pool knowing after my feet softened up underwater they were going to get stripped raw. we used to have to wait about a month between visits to recover.


that has to do with the finish they put on the plaster, prolly just a quick brush finish.

i made sure mine was not like that. My old neighbors had one that would make my feet bleed within an hour. hated it.

so i made sure on my last on and this one it was smooth.

now when they cut in the new tile on the steps...it is a little rough there, but nothing a rubbing one a small rock over it wont fix.
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