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re: Scotts EZ Seed problems....

Posted on 9/4/21 at 7:22 pm to
Posted by ronk
Member since Jan 2015
6942 posts
Posted on 9/4/21 at 7:22 pm to
Bottom picture is centipede. Very common for people to have both grass types. Very common for both grasses to share similar diseases and issues. You have Virginia buttonweed. Celsius and determination will be needed.

I’ll need help on id’ing the vine. It’s not greenbrier which is good. I don’t see that vine in dfw so maybe craw can id.

Posted by im4LSU
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2004
33516 posts
Posted on 9/4/21 at 9:01 pm to
I cant tell you how much I appreciate the info. I'll see if I can get a better pic of the vine tomorrow for yall. There are some longer segments by the fence.

Also, do you think it would be an issue to apply the celsius now? Or should I wait until the yard maybe isn't under as much stress...
This post was edited on 9/4/21 at 9:24 pm
Posted by im4LSU
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2004
33516 posts
Posted on 9/5/21 at 10:57 am to
Here are more pics of the vine...



Posted by CrawDude
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
5600 posts
Posted on 9/5/21 at 11:18 am to
quote:

need help on id’ing the vine. It’s not greenbrier which is good. I don’t see that vine in dfw so maybe craw can id.

I’ve seen this weed before not but really sure what it is but I can find out.

Good to hear you have good drainage in the backyard. I’d recommend you go ahead spray the weeds in the healthy areas of the lawn, and dead areas where weeds are germinating.

Celsius and MSM Turf are good ones you can use in this heat without damaging the lawn but you might have some temporary yellowing. Celsius is expensive but a bottle will last several years so the annual cost really no higher other commonly used herbicides.

Virginian buttonweed is a perennial weed and comes back and as ronk said you need determination to keep it in check. But it’s kept in check by staying on top of it and spraying it in the spring when it first emerges. It will spread and take over a lawn if you neglect controlling it. Many/most of us deal with it in our yards.

Also as ronk also said your close up photos of the grasses showed showed gray leaf spot fungal disease so treat that with the fungicide he mentioned.

If you are new to all this keep posting and ask questions as there are a number of knowledgeable people on lawn care and management who post on this board that can guide as you learn what to do and equally important what not.
Posted by im4LSU
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2004
33516 posts
Posted on 9/5/21 at 2:20 pm to
I am pretty new to this, but I want my yard to be top notch so I'll do whatever I need to do. I don't have any problem taking the time to do what needs to be done. I work offshore so I have plenty of time on my days off to do what needs to be done.

I've got some celsius and surfactant on the way. Is this the correct propiconizole?



Also will this need the surfactant as well?
This post was edited on 9/5/21 at 2:25 pm
Posted by CrawDude
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
5600 posts
Posted on 9/5/21 at 2:27 pm to
I think the vine may be morning glory. Ever see it produce purplish flowers?

Yes that is the correct fungicide. Just follow label directions on application rate and no surfactant is required.
Posted by im4LSU
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2004
33516 posts
Posted on 9/5/21 at 2:49 pm to
No purple flowers that I've ever seen. Closer to the end of the vine, the while thing starts to turn a purple color though.


Looking further, it's definitely not morning glory
This post was edited on 9/5/21 at 2:53 pm
Posted by CrawDude
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
5600 posts
Posted on 9/5/21 at 4:17 pm to
Send the photo of the vine to Dr. Ron Strahan Weed & Turf extension specialist, LSU ACenter rstrahan@agcenter.lsu.edu he’ll be able to ID it - let us know, I’m curious myself.
Posted by im4LSU
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2004
33516 posts
Posted on 9/6/21 at 10:38 am to
Shot him an email and this was his reply...


quote:

I’m thinking Brunnichia ovata (redvine).  


I would try triclopyr (could injure lawn but would likely be effective) or some type of Trimec product (2,4-D + dicamba + mecoprop).  Trimec is labeled for lawns but it also will injure the lawn in hot weather.

Posted by ronk
Member since Jan 2015
6942 posts
Posted on 9/6/21 at 7:06 pm to
Only use trimec in colder weather. Just deal with the vine until then.
Posted by im4LSU
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2004
33516 posts
Posted on 9/6/21 at 8:35 pm to
Yea I was going to hold off on applying it for now. The vine isn't a huge concern for me.
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