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Metal Building Apartment Door Question

Posted on 3/26/20 at 8:58 am
Posted by OneAyedJack
Watson
Member since Sep 2019
219 posts
Posted on 3/26/20 at 8:58 am
I accidentally posted this in the wrong forum yesterday:

So, I'm building a metal building. Half of it is going to be finished to be a mother in law suite type apartment.

My question is about the doors. The metal building wall is 8 inches. The 2x4 stud wall inside with drywall on is another 4 inches. So that's a total of 12 inches of wall.

Using standard 32"x80" doors, where do I hang the door? Flush out to the metal and leave that much drywall behind it. I think it would hit the wall when opened...

Or, frame it in the stud wall and trim the exterior recess with metal?

Anyone ever do this?

I'd appreciate any help and would love to see pictures if you got them!
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
18911 posts
Posted on 3/26/20 at 12:01 pm to
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frame it in the stud wall and trim the exterior recess with metal?


I think that has to be your answer.
Posted by Aristo
Colorado
Member since Jan 2007
13292 posts
Posted on 3/26/20 at 3:30 pm to
Get a door slab and build custom jams. I have the same thing with some apartments in a metal building.
Posted by OneAyedJack
Watson
Member since Sep 2019
219 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 2:58 pm to
quote:

Get a door slab and build custom jams.


I'm sorry. I'm ignorant. I don't understand this.
Posted by Capital Cajun
Over Yonder
Member since Aug 2007
5525 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 7:43 pm to
One suggestion, if for MIL, put in 36” wide doors in case she ever has to be in a wheelchair.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
38820 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 8:20 pm to
you want your exterior door in your exterior wall.
set your frame to the outside steel line (girt or column), and return your inside stud wall to the frame. You want a framed opening at the steel line and a cases opening in your finished wall
Posted by OneAyedJack
Watson
Member since Sep 2019
219 posts
Posted on 3/28/20 at 1:19 pm to
quote:

you want your exterior door in your exterior wall.
set your frame to the outside steel line (girt or column), and return your inside stud wall to the frame. You want a framed opening at the steel line and a cases opening in your finished wall


If I did this, I would have 8 inches of cased opening right behind the door frame. The door itself would never be able to open fully because it would hit the cased opening. Am I wrong?
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
38820 posts
Posted on 3/28/20 at 1:43 pm to
no...you want your exterior door to swing out, not in.
that’s a code requirement
Posted by OneAyedJack
Watson
Member since Sep 2019
219 posts
Posted on 3/28/20 at 2:44 pm to
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no...you want your exterior door to swing out, not in.


I'd rather it swing in.

quote:

that’s a code requirement


Is that a state code req? If so, no one told my parish....
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
38820 posts
Posted on 3/28/20 at 2:49 pm to
if it’s a required exit it has to swing out.
if it’s not than it doesn’t have to, but when the door swinging out solves your problem I’m not sure why you’d do otherwise

it’s going to look like shite with a cased opening in your girt wall, plus it will likely leak. YMMV obviously
Posted by Capital Cajun
Over Yonder
Member since Aug 2007
5525 posts
Posted on 3/28/20 at 9:30 pm to
Single family residential doors aren’t required to swing out.

Think about your own house.
This post was edited on 3/28/20 at 9:32 pm
Posted by OneAyedJack
Watson
Member since Sep 2019
219 posts
Posted on 3/30/20 at 10:30 am to
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Single family residential doors aren’t required to swing out.

Think about your own house.


You beat me to it. I called this morning to verify code and this is exactly what I was told by the building permit office. Since it is a living space, it is not required to have a door that swings out.

The metal building guy and carpenter recommend framing the door in the wood stud wall and trimming with metal to the door creating a small cased doorway and being flush to the interior wall. I'm still unsure though.
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