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GFI Breaker or Outlet?

Posted on 7/3/26 at 12:01 pm
Posted by RetiredSaintsLsuFan
NW Arkansas
Member since Jun 2020
2533 posts
Posted on 7/3/26 at 12:01 pm
Yesterday I was running too much on my patio and everything went off. My living room and patio is on this breaker. Everything in the living room still works. The outside patio plus the outside lights and the dining room lights do not work. I changed out the GFI outlet and it still will not work.

Would it be the GFI breaker even though the living room outlets and lights work?
Posted by Spankum
The Sip
Member since Jan 2007
62831 posts
Posted on 7/3/26 at 12:33 pm to
Check everywhere in the house that is on GFCI circuit…..any outside outlet, garage, porches, kitchen, all bathrooms, etc. the gfci that you replaced may not be the one that is fricking up.

Also, gfci outlets are pure crap nowadays…you may have installed another bad outlet.

Finally, some brands have switched the terminals up on their outlets. Verify that the right wires are connected in the right place. Just because you connected the wires to the same terminals you took them from on the old one, that doesn’t mean they are correct. I had to call an electrician because of this on my last one!
This post was edited on 7/3/26 at 12:35 pm
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
9526 posts
Posted on 7/3/26 at 12:33 pm to
You'll probably get better advice but I'd first simply test that the feed to the patio going into the GFI and then coming out of the GFI is hot at that box and deduce from there.
This post was edited on 7/3/26 at 12:35 pm
Posted by RetiredSaintsLsuFan
NW Arkansas
Member since Jun 2020
2533 posts
Posted on 7/3/26 at 12:42 pm to
quote:

Check everywhere in the house that is on GFCI circuit…..any outside outlet, garage, porches, kitchen, all bathrooms, etc. the gfci that you replaced may not be the one that is fricking up.


I have checked every GFI and outlet in the entire house and everything works.
Posted by RetiredSaintsLsuFan
NW Arkansas
Member since Jun 2020
2533 posts
Posted on 7/3/26 at 12:45 pm to
quote:

Finally, some brands have switched the terminals up on their outlets. Verify that the right wires are connected in the right place. Just because you connected the wires to the same terminals you took them from on the old one, that doesn’t mean they are correct. I had to call an electrician because of this on my last one


I reconnected the line in white and line in black exactly from the outlet to the new outlet.

I then tried to test and reset and nothing worked.
This post was edited on 7/3/26 at 12:49 pm
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
9526 posts
Posted on 7/3/26 at 1:45 pm to
quote:

I then tried to test and reset and nothing worked.


I'd just use a current tester to try to locate exactly where the current stops? Like the feed going into that GFI you replaced, the feed out of it and then the next box in line.

If you don't have current you know where. If you have current, you need to look at the neutral connections to see where something got loose.

From what you're saying, I'd check that a white or black isn't just pulled loose in a junction inside the box you were working on.
This post was edited on 7/3/26 at 4:57 pm
Posted by RetiredSaintsLsuFan
NW Arkansas
Member since Jun 2020
2533 posts
Posted on 7/3/26 at 3:45 pm to
I have an electrician coming next week.
Posted by Spankum
The Sip
Member since Jan 2007
62831 posts
Posted on 7/3/26 at 4:25 pm to
quote:

I reconnected the line in white and line in black exactly from the outlet to the new outlet.

I then tried to test and reset and nothing worked


This is exactly what I’did as well…..but they needed to be connected differently on the new one.
Posted by 2 Jugs
Saint Amant
Member since Feb 2018
2401 posts
Posted on 7/3/26 at 4:48 pm to


Photos of the old and new would help.
Posted by UptownJoeBrown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2024
10920 posts
Posted on 7/3/26 at 6:44 pm to
Please report back with what was wrong. Helps all of us.
Posted by RetiredSaintsLsuFan
NW Arkansas
Member since Jun 2020
2533 posts
Posted on 7/8/26 at 5:44 am to
Apparently the problem was a fried wire between the two light switches that were connected to the GFI outlet. When the switches were pulled out everything worked. This wire was inserted into a hole for the connection on the switch. He commented that he does not like using this type of connection being they fail a lot. The electrician changed this wire and how it was connected and everything was back working.
Posted by bluedragon
Birmingham
Member since May 2020
9840 posts
Posted on 7/8/26 at 8:01 am to
I arrived home from a sales trip to Alaska and walked in to see, orange extension cords everywhere through the house. My electrician meet me and we started testing, removing plates while we searched. Finally discovered the same thing, a fried ground wire. Rewired the ground, drowned the stepson and buried him in the backyard.

Never had another problem with wiring.

He now works as an installer for Spectrum. He’s their problem now.
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