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Eastern White Pine in south Louisiana
Posted on 1/23/24 at 10:56 am
Posted on 1/23/24 at 10:56 am
Anyone have success growing these below Alexandria?
Posted on 1/23/24 at 12:33 pm to CajunTiger78
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Anyone have success growing these below Alexandria?
I saw a dwarf version that I was considering for my asian garden landscaping, but everything I read suggests it even struggles in zone 8 with our heat.
I have a few Thunderhead Japanese Black Pines that are a few years old and are thriving. Those are rated for zone 9 though.
Posted on 1/23/24 at 8:14 pm to RaginCajunz
White pines are beautiful. If you want to try one, maybe don’t fork out alot of money on one in case it fails. (Pines are expensive in the nurseries).
I would plant it this time of year. I would plant it where it would get some afternoon shade in the summer. I would plant it in a well-draining area, however I would not let it dry out, especially in the heat.
Let us know if you’re successful. I’m in S. LA too and might just have to try one too.
I would plant it this time of year. I would plant it where it would get some afternoon shade in the summer. I would plant it in a well-draining area, however I would not let it dry out, especially in the heat.
Let us know if you’re successful. I’m in S. LA too and might just have to try one too.
This post was edited on 1/23/24 at 8:18 pm
Posted on 1/25/24 at 9:24 am to CajunTiger78
I know of some in DeRidder. 80 years old, survived Rita, they’re still kicking. They are nice trees.
EDIT for Correction - Actually the trees I'm thinking of are Pinus glabra spruce pine.
EDIT for Correction - Actually the trees I'm thinking of are Pinus glabra spruce pine.
This post was edited on 1/25/24 at 10:59 am
Posted on 1/25/24 at 7:56 pm to White Bear
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EDIT for Correction - Actually the trees I'm thinking of are Pinus glabra spruce pine.
Spruce pine in Deridder?!
Wow! Never seen one outside of SELA.
Posted on 1/25/24 at 9:31 pm to Cowboyfan89
Yard trees, spruce pine is what I called them anyway.
Tiny cones and a lot of them. A few of the trees had big limbs right on the ground almost.
Tiny cones and a lot of them. A few of the trees had big limbs right on the ground almost.
Posted on 1/26/24 at 6:42 am to White Bear
I just picked some pine cones off of a spruce pine in Natchitoches. It's very large and good looking specimen. I really like the look of the spruce pine. It's not as fast a grower but it's a good looking pine. And it's bark resembles a hardwood appearance.
This post was edited on 1/26/24 at 6:42 am
Posted on 1/26/24 at 1:21 pm to CajunTiger78
quote:Any seed in them?
I just picked some pine cones off of a spruce pine in Natchitoches.
Posted on 1/26/24 at 6:13 pm to White Bear
Haven't checked yet. Going to see if they open up a bit over the next few days. If not I'll pry them open to check.
Posted on 1/29/24 at 9:10 am to White Bear
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Any seed in them?
Yes I have removed a few seeds front the 4 cones I have put into a paper bag. I'm going to check them again in a few days. Does anyone know if these need stratification? I know Loblolly and Slash do not, and I'm willing to bet due to it's native range it probably doesn't either or very little. I'll look this up later.
Posted on 1/29/24 at 9:31 am to CajunTiger78
quote:check silvics book idk
Does anyone know if these need stratification? I know Loblolly and Slash do not, and I'm willing to bet due to it's native range it probably doesn't either or very little. I'll look this up later.
Posted on 1/29/24 at 10:10 am to White Bear
Seed Production and Dissemination- Second-year cones mature during September and October and seeds are disseminated during November. When ripe, cones are green and have a specific gravity of 0.88. Test results show seeds are mature and germinable when the cones float in SAE 20-weight motor oil. Filled seeds sink in absolute ethanol, and empty or partially filled seeds float. Cleaned seeds are small, ranging from 88,180 to 114,640/kg (40,000 to 52,000/lb) and average 101,410/kg (46,000/lb). Seeds at a moisture content of between 5 and 10 percent have been stored for as long as 10 years at -17.8° to -15.0° C (0° to 5° F) and remained viable (16).
Seedling Development- Seeds are not highly viable if the trees are isolated and poorly pollinated. Stratification improves seed germination (11). Sixty percent germination can usually be attained after only 7 days of stratification at 4° C (39° F) (3); however, the recommended cold stratification regime is 0.6° to 5.0° C (33° to 41° F) for 28 days (16).
Seedling Development- Seeds are not highly viable if the trees are isolated and poorly pollinated. Stratification improves seed germination (11). Sixty percent germination can usually be attained after only 7 days of stratification at 4° C (39° F) (3); however, the recommended cold stratification regime is 0.6° to 5.0° C (33° to 41° F) for 28 days (16).
Posted on 3/6/24 at 6:54 pm to CajunTiger78
Planted 2 saplings, we shall see what happens. The first was pretty dried out. I planted them in dappled shade areas.
This post was edited on 3/6/24 at 6:55 pm
Posted on 3/6/24 at 6:56 pm to CajunTiger78
I'm also trying 2 ponderosa pines, I bought 1 and got an extra with my 2nd white pine. Btw TN nursery has buy 1 get one free right now, so a good way to try a new tree for little risk. Two trees for 20 bucks plus shipping.
This post was edited on 3/6/24 at 6:57 pm
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