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3rd Evaporator Coil American Standard a/c

Posted on 10/1/20 at 8:51 pm
Posted by GenJackson1814
Member since Nov 2013
216 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 8:51 pm
My home is less than 2 years old. In June the evaporator coil started leaking on my a/c and had to have it replaced. Yesterday the a/c went out again and it was the same problem. Luckily everything is still under warranty but I’m getting sick and tired of going a few days without a/c while replacement parts are ordered and installed. Is this a common problem with American Standard or is my house built on an Indian burial ground
Posted by td1
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
2835 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 9:37 pm to
It is the crappy aluminum coils they are using now vs the old ones that were copper. It is not just American Standard, I have replaced two Lennox aluminum coils on two separate units I have. I got two years out of both of them. They were replaced under warranty, but that did not include the labor, evacuating, and refilling the system.

The aluminum coils also are not as antimicrobial as the old copper ones. They seem to develop the dirty sock smell syndrome a lot easier. I had them set the blower to run a little longer when the condenser cuts off, it has helped somewhat.
This post was edited on 10/1/20 at 9:39 pm
Posted by cajuns td
Prairieville
Member since Jun 2019
153 posts
Posted on 10/2/20 at 6:12 am to
I'm on year 4 with an American Standard and I haven't had any issues yet.

I similar evaporator coil leaks with a Goodman at a previous house and the AC guy told me something similar about aluminum coils. Never took the time to look into it though.
Posted by CrawDude
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
5266 posts
Posted on 10/2/20 at 9:53 am to
Evaporator coil leaks are problematic, regardless of manufacturer, particularly in newer systems, as coils are being made larger and with thinner metal (aluminum) to gain greater heat exchange efficiency to achieve higher SEER and EER rating being mandated by the Feds. Coils are more energy efficient but they are not as robust as in older units with thicker, heavier metal.

But unless you have incredibly bad luck, with 3 evap coils in 2 years it sounds as though you may have a contaminant in the system eating away at the coils. Often an acid created in the refrigerant loop by the refrigerant reacting with moisture - water moisture would be present if the installers failed to pull a proper vacuum on the system and didn’t install filter/dryers, and that applies to each subsequent evap coil replacement. But I find it difficult to believe that a reputable company would fail to do those things - as that’s a standard/required installation practice, and only a hack would not do those things. I wonder if I could even a mechanical abrasion issue. But clearly you need a a good HVAC diagnostician to find the root cause of this issue.

I’d recommend you register on the AOP Residential forum of HVAC-Talk, pose the same question, and let experienced HVAC technicians from around the USA provide their thoughts on what might be the cause of this and they’ll usually offer advice to steer you in the right direction. Here is the site LINK and if you do register and post give them as much information as possible on your system - model numbers of your outdoor condenser, air handler and coil. Is your air handler in a closet, in the attic, etc - the more info you provide the better they can help you.
This post was edited on 10/2/20 at 11:46 am
Posted by sosaysmorvant
River Parishes, LA
Member since Feb 2008
1312 posts
Posted on 10/2/20 at 2:27 pm to
Join the club. I think my inside unit is the Goodman brand, but it is aluminum. I've had the inside unit replaced 5 times over 10 years (since changing from copper). The original inside coil was copper and lasted over 20 years. almost all of it is covered under warranty, but the hassle in incredible and my wife can't stand our A/C guy because she blames him. I think he's competent and does good work.....but there has to be something causing this.

I got frustrated this time and got a few other companies to give me estimates on a total replacement (inside & Outside). One guy could even get copper coils, but my system would have to be retrofitted. Two of the companies said it is common in our area to have inside coils fail. Supposedly in Louisiana and Florida the failure rate is very high. Some blame air contaminants. It's plausible, but a stretch. I'm just baffled why a company doesn't make a more robust inside unit and charge accordingly. I would pay a hefty premium to not have problems every other year.

After a little research, I found that they simply don't make them like they used to. Even the copper coils of today are substantially thinner walls than the unit I had originally. Quality is way down at the sake of efficiency.

My upstairs unit is still on the original inside coil. Right at 30 years. It shares the same attic as the unit that fails every other year. Crazy shite.
Posted by Cajun Invasion
Abbeville, Louisianna
Member since Jan 2012
1799 posts
Posted on 10/2/20 at 8:30 pm to
Your attic wouldn’t happend to be spray foamed would it? I hear of houses with spray foam and multiple bad evaporator coils being thing.
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