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Posted on 1/29/19 at 4:26 pm to
Posted by PillageUrVillage
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Posted on 1/29/19 at 4:26 pm to
I have a few links in the OP.

I usually order from Reimer Seeds. Reviews of the company are very mixed with some people having really bad experiences with them. But I’ve never had any issues with anything I’ve ordered from them and have always had good germination rates. There’s a few more popular sites, I’ll go add those.
Posted by lsuson
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Posted on 1/29/19 at 4:26 pm to
I plan on sowing in March so no
Posted by bluemoons
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Posted on 1/29/19 at 4:46 pm to
quote:

Where do yall get peppers and other things from? Local stores have your basic things like cucumbers and tomatoes and such, but where do you find the specific peppers you are talking about above?



I get a lot of mine from Park Seed and Baker Creek.
Posted by PillageUrVillage
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Posted on 1/29/19 at 9:30 pm to


Almost all of them have made it to 4” peat pots. Put them under the lights since it’s supposed to be cloudy the next few days.
Posted by bluemoons
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Posted on 1/29/19 at 9:49 pm to
What mix do you use for potting up? I used the mix that’s in my raised bed last year, but I think I’m just going to buy a bag of Happy Frog to pot everything up next week.
Posted by PillageUrVillage
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Posted on 1/29/19 at 10:18 pm to
Miracle grow seed starter potting mix.

Lowe’s
This post was edited on 1/29/19 at 10:22 pm
Posted by bluemoons
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Posted on 1/30/19 at 10:03 am to
Gotcha. I made my own seed starting mix last year/this year. It's 1/3 peat moss, 1/3 perlite, and 1/3 worm castings. It seems to be working well but I think I'm going to go ahead and use regular mix when I switch everything to 4" pots this weekend.
Posted by wildcat3
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Posted on 1/30/19 at 10:06 am to
Talked to a nursery guy yesterday, and he was saying Celebrity tomatoes were his top choice. I typically plant Super Fantastic and start my own seeds, but thought I'd experiment this year for comparison. His nursery didn't sell tomato seeds, so I went all over town yesterday looking for Celebrity seeds, Lowes, three nurseries, wal mart, tractor supply. Most stores had 10 or 15 varieties, but no Celebrity seeds anywhere. I didn't want to order online (but ended up having to), so just thought I'd pick up locally. Anybody know why Celebrity's are impossible to find? Are they just not popular anymore, or is there some kind of proprietary issue?
Posted by PillageUrVillage
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Posted on 1/30/19 at 10:33 am to
quote:

Anybody know why Celebrity's are impossible to find? Are they just not popular anymore, or is there some kind of proprietary issue?


I see them at Lowe's and Home Depot every year.

Bonnie plants though, not seeds. My dad grows them every year and they are very hardy, disease resistant, and yield a ton. I prefer the flavor of a Better Boy, but Celebrity ain't too shabby either. I'm growing both this year. I'm pretty sure he gets his plants from a local nursery. I'll have to ask him.
Posted by wildcat3
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Posted on 1/30/19 at 11:56 am to
Thanks, yes I’ve seen them in plant form but I’m just talking about seeds.
Posted by PillageUrVillage
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Posted on 1/30/19 at 12:29 pm to
Yeah, I had ordered my seeds too. Don’t recall ever seeing the seeds sold anywhere locally.
Posted by wildcat3
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Posted on 1/30/19 at 5:14 pm to
Do you or your dad prune the celebrity’s? I see where some don’t recommend pruning.
Posted by PillageUrVillage
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Posted on 1/30/19 at 6:13 pm to
The only time I prune tomato plants is when leaves are touching the ground, diseased, or leaves are over abundant. I think I used too much nitrogen last year and had extremely bushy tomato plants. This year I’m going with low nitrogen fertilizer. You want to grow a lot of fruit, not a lot of leaves. As far as celebrities in particular, I haven’t grown some in a long time and I don’t recall ever needing to do a lot of (if any) pruning.

ETA: Just got of the phone with my pops. He said since a Celebrity is semi-determinate, you can let it get bushy by not pruning. Or, you can prune and pull suckers and it’ll act more vine like. He stakes them, prunes, and tops them off at about 5 feet. He always makes a ton, so I’ll probably just follow his method.
This post was edited on 1/30/19 at 7:52 pm
Posted by wildcat3
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Posted on 1/31/19 at 10:19 am to
Sounds good, thanks. I usually prune my Super Fantastics, and they grow pretty tall, but saw where the Celebrity's could go either way. I've never topped my tomato plants though. What's that do?
Posted by lsuson
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Posted on 1/31/19 at 10:27 am to
Topping can grow fuller plants with more lower fruit or better tasting fruit since the plant doesn't need to supply energy to a tall plant.

In regards to Nitrogen, its good to give a tomato plant lots of nitrogen before it starts to produce blossoms and then you stop the nitrogen. Then you switch to phosphorous which helps promote lots of blossoms. I use an electric toothbrush to shake blossoms which increases tomato yields.
Posted by PillageUrVillage
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Posted on 1/31/19 at 11:20 am to
quote:

good to give a tomato plant lots of nitrogen before it starts to produce blossoms and then you stop the nitrogen.


Last year I used Osmocote triple 14. It was extended release, so it was getting too much nitrogen long after fruit started coming in. I’ll probably give them some liquid ferts this year and switch to a low nitrogen extended release once the fruit starts coming in. Thanks.
Posted by pointdog33
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Posted on 1/31/19 at 4:05 pm to
Indeterminate plants should be pruned to the second bloom cluster and Determinates to the first.

You prune to avoid soil contact and to focus the plant on fruit production.
Posted by Nawlens Gator
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Posted on 2/1/19 at 12:24 am to

We stopped planting celebrity 2 yrs ago.

Better Boy > Celebrity.

And Big Beef > Better Boy for growers around here.

We just plant Big Beef now for the main tomato crop.

A few Cherry/Roma/Cherokee Purple also for variety.

Posted by Athletix
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Posted on 2/1/19 at 8:48 am to
Just placed an order for seeds from reimer. Got the following coming in.
Sweet Million (tomato)
Cherokee Purple (tomato)
Big Beef (tomato)
Sweet Slice (cucumber)
Blue Lake (beans bush)
Bull Nose (sweet pepper)
Carmen (sweet pepper)
Black Beauty (eggplant)
Yellow Crooked Neck (squash)
Clemson Spineless (okra)

Hale's best jumbo (cantaloupe)
Crimson Sweet (watermelon)

If anyone thinks something is missing, feel free to drop some suggestions. As you can see I'm planting alot of what has already been talked about. I'll grow anything that people like. Hell, I don't really eat vegetables besides cucumbers, I just like growing and giving away stuff. Now the watermelon and cantaloupe...the wife and can do some work.

Posted by PillageUrVillage
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Posted on 2/1/19 at 9:13 am to
Speaking of tomato pruning, I ran across a couple of videos that I found pretty interesting. Looks like this guy prunes pretty much all of the leaves on his plants except for the top of the plants.

Grow Tomatoes NOT Foliage! 2:35

Grow Tomatoes NOT Foliage - Part 2 Of Tomato Growing Tips. Much longer at 25:41
This post was edited on 2/1/19 at 9:14 am
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