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When will we know the effectiveness of the new Shingles vaccine?
Posted on 5/27/19 at 12:21 pm
Posted on 5/27/19 at 12:21 pm
I wonder if this new vaccine has been on the market long enough to be adequately tested.
As a poster 50 plus, I am interested in this. A primary doctor who never saw a prescription he did not like eagerly endorsed it as soon as it was developed. My current primary doctor did not express a view on it yet. I think I prefer his approach.
I read previous posts, which indicated potentially very painful side effects. So I would need to be convinced it is far more effective than the previous one before I would consider having it. I have had both chicken pox and shingles, which thankfully was not that painful and limited to the back left under arm area.
I would welcome any thoughts.
As a poster 50 plus, I am interested in this. A primary doctor who never saw a prescription he did not like eagerly endorsed it as soon as it was developed. My current primary doctor did not express a view on it yet. I think I prefer his approach.
I read previous posts, which indicated potentially very painful side effects. So I would need to be convinced it is far more effective than the previous one before I would consider having it. I have had both chicken pox and shingles, which thankfully was not that painful and limited to the back left under arm area.
I would welcome any thoughts.
This post was edited on 5/27/19 at 12:23 pm
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Posted on 5/27/19 at 4:06 pm to rjokerlsu
If it’s on the market then we already have data on it’s effectiveness. You just have to find the research. I find that asking your doctor really doesn’t help much. Regular physicians don’t keep up with the latest in R&D until it gets marketed to them. You’d be better off asking a pathologist or someone who works in R&D. I would ask for you, but the person I know is in the process of developing treatment for end stage colon cancer.
Posted on 5/28/19 at 2:14 pm to rjokerlsu
Can you get the vaccine after you have had shingles?
Posted on 5/29/19 at 1:02 am to CoachChappy
I honestly don't know, and would enjoy reading the contributions of someone (an RN perhaps?) who can provide any info about that as well.
Posted on 5/29/19 at 7:55 am to rjokerlsu
You can get either of the shingles vaccines after already having shingles. If you have had shingles recently, you can perhaps give it a few years as your immune system is still probably “revved up” and preventing another outbreak (according to the advisory committee on immunization practices).
You are correct that long term data is not robust at the moment, but what we do know is promising. Though the old and new vaccines haven’t been compared head-to head directly, baseline data seems superior in the new vaccine (shingrix) in that it keeps the immune system active for longer.
Your concern about side effects is reasonable. Less than 1% of those getting old vaccine experience headache, fatigue, myalgia, or fever. The rate for the new vaccine is around 11%. The ACIP still contends the new vaccine is better because these adverse effects typically last 1-3 days.
Pubmed article from 2015
Pubmed article from 2016
CDC statements on new vaccine
Sorry if you can’t access the first two. You should be able to see the abstracts but may not be able to see the full article. Last link is for patient’s.
You are correct that long term data is not robust at the moment, but what we do know is promising. Though the old and new vaccines haven’t been compared head-to head directly, baseline data seems superior in the new vaccine (shingrix) in that it keeps the immune system active for longer.
Your concern about side effects is reasonable. Less than 1% of those getting old vaccine experience headache, fatigue, myalgia, or fever. The rate for the new vaccine is around 11%. The ACIP still contends the new vaccine is better because these adverse effects typically last 1-3 days.
Pubmed article from 2015
Pubmed article from 2016
CDC statements on new vaccine
Sorry if you can’t access the first two. You should be able to see the abstracts but may not be able to see the full article. Last link is for patient’s.
Posted on 5/31/19 at 9:03 pm to rjokerlsu
I would just use common sense and quit worrying about something you’ll never get. The vaccine is a sham, they’d sell you cat piss if they think you’d buy it. Suckers I tell ya
Edit: Most doctors are ignorant to vaccines, they’re just told to push it.
Edit: Most doctors are ignorant to vaccines, they’re just told to push it.
This post was edited on 5/31/19 at 9:06 pm
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