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Posted on 1/25/18 at 8:08 pm
Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 1/25/18 at 8:08 pm
I read somewhere a while back where all that matters each workout is total volume lifted

i get that, but my question is lets say i normally do 5 sets of 10 bench press of 115lb, or 5750 lbs.

i feel like its a good workout but im not totally spent when im done


If i instead only did 5 sets of 145 but only did 3 reps, thats only 2175 but im completely spent when done and feel like i got a great chest workout

in reality i only did 40% of the total volume of the higher sets. So is the less intense sets better? Im looking to bulk and put on size FWIW
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
39254 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 10:19 pm to
Of volume is all that matters then how come people who do infinite amounts of pushups and pullups aren't huge?

Of course their are other drivers of size and strength and when in a caloric surplus and positive nitrogen state, gains on strength=gains in muscle so long as volume is sufficient to cause a stimulus. Let's put it the way daunte trudal creator of DC training put it

"drop a guy off on an island with a bar and 2 plates and have him rep it out over and over again, do every intensity technique known like drop sets, super sets etc. When you return in a year, you will just see a more tan version of the person you dropped off"

"Take that same guy and give him an unlimited amount of weight and have him progress in weight or reps every week and when you return in a year....well that will be a big arse Gilligan"

Also ask yourself this, if volume worked for everyone so we'll, then why do the guys slaving away at the gym using the routines from magazines look the same year after year? Because they have frickarounditus


Read the above article the read it again, then read it again


Volume, frequency and intensity all play a part, but there is no reason to unload the rifle once something is dead. In lifting terms, more volume than is needed just causes cns fatigue. Goal should be to progress in all lifts you are using at the time, do just enough volume to cause muscle breakdown, rest and then do it all over again as soon as possible.

Now on to the more important question, what program and diet are you following? If you aren't following one and are just going how you feel, instinct or some other BS that you don't have as a newer lifter....we'll find a damn program.



programs

You can pick any of these that fit your lifting level. I highly suggest the greyskull lp, but there are other great programs in that thread. Key is what ever program you choose, keep a log book and don't deviate from the plan.

For diet, find your maintenance calories and add 300-500 per day. Get a minimum of 1g protein per lbs of bodyweight. Split the rest of the calories how ever you want. Track everything that goes in your mouth, every damn thing. Weigh everyday, every two weeks take an average and adjust calories as needed. Shoot for an average weight gain of 2-3lbs every other week.
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