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PRP injections

Posted on 7/22/22 at 10:55 am
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33446 posts
Posted on 7/22/22 at 10:55 am
Anyone have any experience and/or opinions on these? I've had stubbornly inflamed sacroiliac joints for around a year now. It's super frustrating. Proper care, massage, dry needling and light chiro seem to somewhat work, but the flare ups are so random. Sometimes, it seems as if movement/workouts are the balm. Other times, the same things cause the flare ups!

I asked someone about stem cells and they said to look at PRP first. TIA
Posted by suman
Member since Jun 2009
68 posts
Posted on 7/22/22 at 1:17 pm to
Who is going to inject the PRP into your SI joints? Under fluoro guidance or blind stick?
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33446 posts
Posted on 7/22/22 at 1:55 pm to
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Who is going to inject the PRP into your SI joints? Under fluoro guidance or blind stick?
A doctor. This is what it says:

Dr. X uses ultrasound guidance and/or fluoroscopic (x-ray) guidance when administering injectable therapies to ensure that the healing agents, also known as “orthobiologics”, are delivered precisely to the area of injury.
Posted by Oates Mustache
Member since Oct 2011
22073 posts
Posted on 7/22/22 at 2:08 pm to
I looked into it for a herniated disc. It looks like it has a high effectiveness rate. But I'm also curious if stem cells aren't the better option.
Posted by suman
Member since Jun 2009
68 posts
Posted on 7/22/22 at 3:26 pm to
Steroids are first line. I would generally avoid PRP except for a few circumstances, not this one. Stem cells are a sham.
Posted by Oates Mustache
Member since Oct 2011
22073 posts
Posted on 7/22/22 at 11:30 pm to
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Stem cells are a sham.


You have something to back this up? Everything I've read show an over 90% success rate.

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I would generally avoid PRP except for a few circumstances, not this one


For the OP or herniated discs?


Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33446 posts
Posted on 7/23/22 at 11:16 am to
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Steroids are first line. I would generally avoid PRP except for a few circumstances, not this one.
Can you say more about everything? Are you a practitioner?
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 7/23/22 at 11:37 am to
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Stem cells are a sham.


This is of course anecdotal, but I know two people that had torn labrums that opted for PRP over surgery and are 100% better
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
71174 posts
Posted on 7/23/22 at 11:42 am to
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Stem cells are a sham.



Depends on the treatment. The sickle cell treatments work.
Posted by Oates Mustache
Member since Oct 2011
22073 posts
Posted on 7/23/22 at 11:44 am to
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PRP over surgery and are 100% better


Both PRP and stem cells have high success rates if you read online. That's why I'm scratching my head as to his statement.
Posted by suman
Member since Jun 2009
68 posts
Posted on 7/24/22 at 11:35 am to
Shoulder labral tears are extremely common and very, very few require surgery. Those two patients would likely have had the same course if the doctor injected saline instead of PRP.

Internet stories and personal anecdotes are poor ways to make medical decisions. Level 1 data (randomized controlled trials) are the standard. And PRP/ Stem cell data is weak.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 7/24/22 at 11:38 am to
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Internet stories and personal anecdotes are poor ways to make medical decisions.


That's why I preferenced it was anecdotal. Both of those people had been recommended surgery by a physician.

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Level 1 data (randomized controlled trials) are the standard.


Of course

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And PRP/ Stem cell data is weak.


You keep saying this but you haven't actually presented any data.
Posted by Oates Mustache
Member since Oct 2011
22073 posts
Posted on 7/24/22 at 11:49 am to
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And PRP/ Stem cell data is weak.


This isn't true.

There are a lot of pubmed publications out there on both therapies.

LINK
Posted by suman
Member since Jun 2009
68 posts
Posted on 7/24/22 at 12:14 pm to
Lol. You found a Korean review article from an obscure journal as your evidence?

There are tons of studies that cumulatively don't amount to much. The fact that it's cash-pay and not covered by insurance should tell you something.

I'm not saying PRP is completely worthless but usually not necessary for most on this board. I would almost never recommend stem cell injections (different than transplants).

Do what you please though.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 7/24/22 at 12:44 pm to
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The fact that it's cash-pay and not covered by insurance should tell you something.



No its not. You have 67 posts on this site, you have no built in credibility and you've presented no actual evidence on your position. Bring the goods or shut the frick up
Posted by Oates Mustache
Member since Oct 2011
22073 posts
Posted on 7/24/22 at 12:50 pm to
Are you a pain management doc or something? You rail against it, but why? Explain why it doesn't work.

Everything I've read explains in detail how both therapies work. You're saying that it's bunk?
This post was edited on 7/24/22 at 12:51 pm
Posted by Buck Strickland
Arlen, Texas
Member since Sep 2017
155 posts
Posted on 7/24/22 at 5:44 pm to
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The fact that it's cash-pay and not covered by insurance should tell you something.


I'm having it done tomorrow and my insurance is covering it provisionally for a 5 year period. It is covered for lateral epicondylitis and osteoarthritis of the knees. Luckily, I have both.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
71174 posts
Posted on 7/24/22 at 5:46 pm to
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I'm having it done tomorrow and my insurance is covering it provisionally for a 5 year period. It is covered for lateral epicondylitis and osteoarthritis of the knees. Luckily, I have both.


It was also recently approved for wound treatment.
Posted by sabansucks
Hammond
Member since Feb 2008
225 posts
Posted on 7/24/22 at 5:57 pm to
I had PRP injections in my spine area about 5 months ago. Starting to see some relief now. Doctor claims it may take 6-7 months before I get the full affect. I totally plan on getting stem cells at a later date if necessary.

I am fused from L1-L3 and I felt like I needed to try whatever was available. Good luck!
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33446 posts
Posted on 7/24/22 at 8:26 pm to
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I am fused from L1-L3 and I felt like I needed to try whatever was available.
Dang, dude - sending some positive shite your way! That fricking sucks!

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I had PRP injections in my spine area about 5 months ago. Starting to see some relief now. Doctor claims it may take 6-7 months before I get the full affect.
I can live with this pelvic thing, but it's just affecting my life too much. How bad was the procedure itself?

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I totally plan on getting stem cells at a later date if necessary.
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