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Programming Plyometrics - calling LSU777

Posted on 10/28/19 at 11:59 am
Posted by themasterpater
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Posted on 10/28/19 at 11:59 am
My current routine around the big three is

Monday - Deadlift
Wednesday - Bench
Friday - Squat

I’d like to incorporate P90X PlyoX training into my routine, but what are the thoughts on when I should fit this into my routine? After DL, after squat? Alternate weeks substituting squat day for plyo?

Looking for input, I trust 777’s advice, seems like a no bs straight shooter
Posted by Rep520
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Posted on 10/28/19 at 12:29 pm to
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After DL, after squat? Alternate weeks substituting squat day for plyo?


I am not 777, and don't fully know what the P90X routine is, but I'm not a huge fan of plyo following leg exercises if the plyo is higher impact.

I might consider doing it before either dead/squat and alternating which day it falls on week to week. That way, you aren't consistently sapping one lift or another.

Plyo is best for situations where you are able to give it your full attention.
Posted by themasterpater
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Posted on 10/28/19 at 12:43 pm to
That’s similar to what I think, I should do plyo when I’m fresh. Just looking for an intelligent way to incorporate it. Thanks for your input.
Posted by Rep520
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Posted on 10/28/19 at 1:56 pm to
quote:

That’s similar to what I think, I should do plyo when I’m fresh. Just looking for an intelligent way to incorporate it. Thanks for your input.


Sure. If you always did it on Monday or Fridays, I'd worry you run into a greater injury risk with one pattern or lose a balance between quads and posterior chain.

Alternating hopefully would help you avoid those imbalances.
Posted by lsu777
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Posted on 10/28/19 at 3:24 pm to
So what is your goal with adding this? Is there a specific reason you want to use that routine or are you just trying to use a known polymetric program?
Posted by themasterpater
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Posted on 10/28/19 at 3:28 pm to
It doesn’t have to be specifically P90x version. I just have access to it. Incorporating some athleticism into the workout, instead of just the lifts.
Posted by Rep520
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Posted on 10/28/19 at 3:52 pm to
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Incorporating some athleticism into the workout, instead of just the lifts.


Personally, I like sprints for this. In terms of becoming athletic and explosive, sprints have a super simple learning curve and a lot of bang for your buck.
Posted by themasterpater
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Posted on 10/28/19 at 4:01 pm to
I like that. So if I went with sprints, when should I schedule it?
Posted by Rep520
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Posted on 10/28/19 at 6:40 pm to
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I like that. So if I went with sprints, when should I schedule it?


I do sprints after leg work and it's never bothered me. Plyo is really technical, which is why I prefer it before leg work.

Sprinting...unless you really care about mechanics, after your main leg work has always been ok for me. I'm not trying to run the 100 M at the Olympics.

By then you're warm and if you're just looking to get more athletic, developing top speed is not priority 1. It's also great cardio and good for fat loss.
Posted by themasterpater
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Posted on 10/28/19 at 6:49 pm to
Appreciate the response, you make a good point. I’ll give it a shot.
Posted by lsu777
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Posted on 10/28/19 at 6:51 pm to
If that is what you are after I would suggest the following similar to wendler

Warm up-
Jumps or throws- 10-12 each similar to broad jump, vertical jump etc or bfs dot drill.

Conditioning- sprints/prowler and jump rope

Jump rope is my number 1 go-to for developing Athleticism.

As far as scheduling

Do 5-8 min of jump rope after lifting and 2 days a week push a prowler or do some sprints.

Posted by olemc999
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Posted on 10/28/19 at 6:57 pm to
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Jump rope is my number 1 go-to for developing Athleticism


Why is that? I am thinking of getting into a jump rope routine.
Posted by lsu777
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Posted on 10/28/19 at 7:15 pm to
Athleticism is about two things

1) body awareness i.e. controlling the body through space, think gymnastics

2) footwork


Jump rope teaches footwork and teaches you to be aware of your lower half while moving through space. It's the main form of exercise for boxers other than bag work and I would consider them to be really atheletic.

Go watch Ross enamait and tell me if he lacks Athleticism.
Posted by LSU Patrick
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Posted on 10/29/19 at 2:08 pm to
quote:

Incorporating some athleticism into the workout, instead of just the lifts.


Short (8-12 second) sprints up a steep grade and jogging/walking slowly back down to rest between. These are great for neuromuscular and power development.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
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Posted on 10/29/19 at 7:08 pm to
Absolutely, but their number one effect is the position it puts you in and teaches you to run at...I.e. perfect body angle.
Posted by themasterpater
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Posted on 10/30/19 at 3:04 am to
Awesome, good ideas in here
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