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re: What was the key to fixing your driver slice when you started golfing?

Posted on 5/26/20 at 9:42 am to
Posted by VernonPLSUfan
Leesville, La.
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 5/26/20 at 9:42 am to
Left foot a little forward and strengthen your right hand grip a little.
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 5/26/20 at 9:58 am to
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No homo but you look fairly natural and athletic from the shots. Big helpers from me are focus on clearing hands at the correct time and also shorten the back swing ala Finau


This is what helped my slice out a lot. I didn’t have a baseball player swing but I had a Barkley swing. Just slowing down and focusing on contact helped me out a ton.

I spent hours at the range just focusing my driver.

My driver went from out of my bag and playing 4 irons off the tee to my best club in my bag

This post was edited on 5/26/20 at 9:59 am
Posted by STLhog
Nashville, TN
Member since Jan 2015
17718 posts
Posted on 5/26/20 at 10:48 am to
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Honestly my swing speed probably is fitted to a regular flex shaft. I started with a ladies flex (girlfriends moms clubs) and used a senior flex on Saturday (girlfriends clubs)


Doubt this man. You're pretty young right? and with that kind of baseball background, you more than likely need a stiff shaft. Ever had your speed measured? Just go to golf galaxy and jump in the bay to see.

Changed my game completely going from a regular flex R11s POS to a new M6 with a stiff shaft.
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
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Posted on 5/26/20 at 11:14 am to
I haven't ever had my swing speed measured. Wanted to hold off on any type of fitting until I can develop a somewhat consistent swing, even if it's one that needs a lot of work.

The balls I hit at the range (my balls, not range balls) that aren't sliced, or that I make solid contact with, are pretty consistently in the 235-245 yard range at this point. Same holds true on the course. When I hit one solid and straight, that's how far it goes. I've hit a few a little farther, but that's my consistent "good contact" range. From what I'm reading, and clubhead speed being indicative of how far the ball will go, wouldn't a drive in that range indicate a regular flex shaft is ideal? Granted that's not what I'm playing with at the moment on my driver, but the charts I've seen seem to indicate that if that's how far you can hit it, regular flex is probably best


I played 18 saturday morning and my best shot was on 17 with an 18 degree lofted fairway wood (driver is 12 degree). 200 yard par 3. My shot hit the middle of the green and hit the flag stick after the hop. Ended up off the green long after the ricochet, just trying to give an idea of how far I typically hit that one. That was a smooth swing, and indicative of what my proper swing speed should be. So 210 with the fairway wood. That's also a senior flex shaft.


ETA: used the google distance measurement tool on my driving range (easy features to ID) and I'm consistently 250 (on good contact) with the occasional 275. I got curious looking at the yardages on my home course and realized I drove the green once on a 280 yard hole. Maybe I do need a stiffer shaft

I’ve gotten two over that cart path, but most settled right at the bottom of that hill at the back of the range.
This post was edited on 5/26/20 at 11:47 am
Posted by STLhog
Nashville, TN
Member since Jan 2015
17718 posts
Posted on 5/26/20 at 12:01 pm to
Gotta get your speed measured. You don't have to fitted, just go to Dick's and act like you want a new club to see what you're swinging.

Those senior flex are going to murder your distance man so hard to tell honestly. I'm no expert but I would think you'd want a stiff driver shaft. Too much flex is going to severely impact how your head impacts the ball and can change everytime you swing etc. Will be very hard to fix if you don't have the right flex.
This post was edited on 5/26/20 at 12:02 pm
Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 5/26/20 at 12:45 pm to
I guarantee you are not aligned properly.

Alignment is everything in golf, from a chip to a drive.

Posted by Tyga Woods
South Central Jupiter Island, FL
Member since Sep 2016
30093 posts
Posted on 5/26/20 at 12:45 pm to
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From what I'm reading, and clubhead speed being indicative of how far the ball will go, wouldn't a drive in that range indicate a regular flex shaft is ideal?


While swing speed is a good starting point when shopping for a shaft there are other factors that a good fitter will consider. The way you load the shaft in the transition and early downswing comes into play. You could have a SS of 110 and need a regular flex or a SS of 90 and need a stiff flex. Best thing is to get fitted so you’ll know for sure.

I’d also swap that 12 degree driver for a 9 or 10. Rather be long and crooked than short and crooked
This post was edited on 5/26/20 at 12:47 pm
Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 5/26/20 at 12:46 pm to
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For me it was alignment. My feet pointed a little left and my club face was at the target. Once someone showed me what to do with my feet it immediately helped the slice.



bingo
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
Member since Jun 2011
38378 posts
Posted on 5/26/20 at 6:38 pm to
Down the line. One swing. A little different hitting practice balls in the back yard and I don’t hit worth a damn until the 4th hole anyway, but here’s the gist of it. Actually felt on plane and square here, am I off base? Spine angle probably needs some work. What else?








Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
15860 posts
Posted on 5/26/20 at 7:01 pm to
I’m not a golf professional.

You may be a somewhat over the top, but it’s not horrible.
You create better lag than I do.
Posted by GWfool
Member since Aug 2010
2354 posts
Posted on 5/26/20 at 7:31 pm to
Not a professional so someone else can weigh in but it looks like your hips are out pacing the club and the face is slightly open as well on the start of the downswing with your wrist a little cupped at the top.

All of these are issues I struggle with as a former baseball player as well (so maybe I am just seeing my own issues).

Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
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Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 5/26/20 at 7:38 pm to
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hips are out pacing the club


Well damn, I thought that was ideal

In all seriousness I appreciate all the feedback, seems like I remember reading that you want your hips to lead, followed slightly by the shoulders, followed slightly by the arms, followed slightly by the hands on the downswing. Basically your hips should be more open than your shoulders at impact. I’ve also read 1,000 articles on swing tips in the last month so probably information overload. I do know that hogan detailed in his book, hands, arms, shoulders, hips on the backswing and reverse it on the downswing. I might’ve misunderstood what he meant though, that’s why I’m asking y’all
Posted by GWfool
Member since Aug 2010
2354 posts
Posted on 5/26/20 at 8:27 pm to
Yes you want to start your downswing with your hips but if they fire too fast and turn out too quickly the arms lag behind and that opens the club and causes it to cut across the ball. You want everything in sequence with your body turn.
Posted by Tyga Woods
South Central Jupiter Island, FL
Member since Sep 2016
30093 posts
Posted on 5/26/20 at 9:28 pm to
Your flat shoulder turn in transition is slinging the club out over the plane.

Get a club and a wall. Get in your setup with your arse about a foot from the wall and swing to the top. Slowly transition, and try to drag the clubhead down the wall for about a foot before it finally comes off the wall. This should help.

If you’ll watch some pros slow motion you’ll see that in transition the clubhead actually works down and behind the golfer and away from the target to start the downswing. That’s how they shallow the swing and attack the ball from the inside.

Compare where you and Rory differ. Same spot in downswing. Look at his clubhead and hands then look at yours.

Go to the 1:50 mark of this video
Chris Ryan YouTube
This post was edited on 5/26/20 at 9:54 pm
Posted by Tyga Woods
South Central Jupiter Island, FL
Member since Sep 2016
30093 posts
Posted on 5/26/20 at 9:31 pm to
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seems like I remember reading that you want your hips to lead,

The hips do lead but the time gap is fractions of a second. Not something most people should consciously try to do.
Posted by Hou_Lawyer
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2019
1870 posts
Posted on 5/26/20 at 9:42 pm to
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Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
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Posted on 5/26/20 at 9:57 pm to
Good stuff
Posted by rrboy
USA
Member since Jan 2005
5324 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 9:09 am to
Oh Johnny, Great advice! I’ve had fade/slice forever. Although I haven’t played golf in years, I recently started hitting with the same old slice. I came here(for the first time ) for advice,and I only got as far as your post. I’m hitting them straight!!!!

Thanks
This post was edited on 5/31/20 at 9:19 am
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
Member since Jun 2011
38378 posts
Posted on 6/1/20 at 9:17 am to
My slice was gone on my round friday afternoon. Stepped up to the first tee and bombed it about 280 right down the middle of the fairway.

That's the only time in about 10 rounds that I haven't sliced one out of play right off the first tee at that course.

I'm not positive on what I was doing wrong, but it was one of two things. Either I was swaying back, or I wasn't getting a full torso turn. I focused on keeping my back leg straight and turning back and up. Outside of two line drives to the third baseman (over swinging) I hit every fairway that I drove. I played a round with a 3 handicap and outdrove him on every hole, often by a substantial distance. Damn did it feel good to watch them fly long and straight. I think that not getting that full turn plus an aggressive downswing was throwing off my path/clubface. Basically there wasn't enough space to really get it torqued into the right position because I wasn't creating enough space in my backswing turn for that. That's my theory anyway. That first tee shot was the purest ball I've ever hit and it happened several times over the course of the round.

Now, if you'd have been watching my round you'd think I never picked up an iron in my life. Didn't hit the first one crisp. Chunky shots, thin shots, weak fades. I was struggling to even get the ball in the air with my irons. Back to the drawing board there

Salvaged a birdie on 16 though, a long par 4 that dog legs right.
Posted by Blind Eye
Zachary, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2012
97 posts
Posted on 6/2/20 at 2:19 pm to
Your core is outracing the club head. Shoulders should be fairly square at impact. You’re almost to your finish position at impact. Pull up an image of Tiger at impact. Because the club needs to catch up to your body, you are probably slinging the club over the top. The harder your swing, the more u sling and the worse the slice. Slow down from the top and you’ll get into the slot and remarkable things will happen. You stay behind the ball beautifully.
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