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Played Greystone today
Posted on 6/16/21 at 9:10 pm
Posted on 6/16/21 at 9:10 pm
Had a certificate for a free foursome I needed to use so we went today. First time there in several years for me. What happened to the greens? Everything else was in very good shape but many greens (most of the back 9) were really bare and bumpy. Still had a good time, just curious as to why so many greens were in rough condition.
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Posted on 6/16/21 at 9:21 pm to double d
I wish the greens were better too. I really like the lay out of the course.
Posted on 6/16/21 at 9:30 pm to double d
We had terrible winterkill and above average rain along with a terrible flood in 2016. We are working on getting them in better shape. Bear with us!
This post was edited on 6/16/21 at 9:33 pm
Posted on 6/16/21 at 9:37 pm to ChrisBurky
Kind of figured the freeze played a part in it. Hopefully they come around for yall. The guys I played with today loved the layout
Both courses I play when I go to Waco had major issues from the freeze and snow this year. One is almost fully recovered the other is in similar condition as Greystone.
Both courses I play when I go to Waco had major issues from the freeze and snow this year. One is almost fully recovered the other is in similar condition as Greystone.
This post was edited on 6/16/21 at 9:43 pm
Posted on 6/16/21 at 9:49 pm to double d
Thanks Double D, It's been a rough Spring, early summer but I think we have a game plan.
Posted on 6/17/21 at 8:52 am to ChrisBurky
Im pretty sure you're the club pro out there, right?
Is the guy from florida currently there to start the process of getting them fixed?
All my friends are members, i play out there every weekend on Saturday or Sunday. Its a really fun track to play on.
Is the guy from florida currently there to start the process of getting them fixed?
All my friends are members, i play out there every weekend on Saturday or Sunday. Its a really fun track to play on.
This post was edited on 6/17/21 at 8:54 am
Posted on 6/17/21 at 4:44 pm to smoke225
Yes he is!
Posted on 6/17/21 at 8:26 pm to BayouBandit24
quote:
I really like the lay out of the course.
No one ever has said that about greystone
Posted on 6/18/21 at 4:54 am to KingRanch
Its not an easy track by any means, you cant miss the fairway or youre in the woods or wet.
Posted on 6/18/21 at 9:47 am to smoke225
It's an 18 hole golf course built on 13 holes worth of wetland. It's the worst layout in the Baton Rouge area for non-scratch golfers. The people there make it better though. Won't find nicer people that Chris, Cody and crew!
Posted on 6/18/21 at 11:17 am to socks and sandals
quote:Only because they can’t overcome the desire to spray their driver on 14 holes every round. It’s a straight forward golf course. Everything is in front of you except for 4. There are some forced carries and forced layups, sure. But it makes you actually play with strategy which I get can be difficult for hackers.
It's the worst layout in the Baton Rouge area for non-scratch golfers.
It’s certainly not perfect. It can be frustrating for anyone to only have just 1 or 2 eagle chances an entire round. Nearly every tee shot favors a cut because left is hazard or water. And the greens are vanilla except for 13 (which was a mistake) and 18. But if you can play well there, your game can travel most places that don’t have much elevation involved. Hitting off uphill, side, and downhill lies is a whole different animal that no course in LA really prepares you for.
This post was edited on 6/18/21 at 11:18 am
Posted on 6/18/21 at 8:03 pm to ell_13
I like the fact it makes you use every club in the bag. Off the tee you have to be smart, I guess that leads to many of the negative takes; can’t just grab driver and Nitro it (lol).
Posted on 6/18/21 at 10:34 pm to socks and sandals
Totally agree!
Posted on 6/18/21 at 10:37 pm to ell_13
It has greens built backward, it’s tighter than an airplane bathroom, it drains poorly, the range is too small, it has the worst par 5 ever designed in the history of golf ( I have played 65 of the current top 100). And it’s in DENHAM springs with a trailer park on hole 8
Posted on 6/18/21 at 10:47 pm to Zamperini2014
Shots fired
Posted on 6/19/21 at 5:27 am to Zamperini2014
3 for 6 imo. And remember we were talking layout. You bring up other points.
- It was one green built off by 90°. I mentioned it #13. It can feel like a gimmick with the slope going away from the tee boxes.
- The course is really not that tight where you’re supposed to land it. You just can’t always pull driver, it will tighten up then. 2, 6, 8 on the front all have wide landing areas if you hit it 215-230 yards from the one ups. Same for 11 and 17 on the back. 10 and 12 are the only two where it’s tight most of the way to the hole. Everything else is pretty wide open.
- It does drain poorly. Definitely an issue.
- The range is fine. Never seen this complaint before. It’s actually one of the better ranges around BR.
- The double dogleg par 5 I also mentioned. It and 18 are not reachable in two. You would have to take a huge risk on both. Although I’ve seen it happen. But I get why this frustrates people even good golfers.
- Finally, you obviously haven’t been to the course in a long time. They swapped 9s. Eastover is by the 17 green. The trees bushes and fencing are high and thick enough to where it’s not noticeable. You may get some Spanish music serenading you on Sundays though.
- It was one green built off by 90°. I mentioned it #13. It can feel like a gimmick with the slope going away from the tee boxes.
- The course is really not that tight where you’re supposed to land it. You just can’t always pull driver, it will tighten up then. 2, 6, 8 on the front all have wide landing areas if you hit it 215-230 yards from the one ups. Same for 11 and 17 on the back. 10 and 12 are the only two where it’s tight most of the way to the hole. Everything else is pretty wide open.
- It does drain poorly. Definitely an issue.
- The range is fine. Never seen this complaint before. It’s actually one of the better ranges around BR.
- The double dogleg par 5 I also mentioned. It and 18 are not reachable in two. You would have to take a huge risk on both. Although I’ve seen it happen. But I get why this frustrates people even good golfers.
- Finally, you obviously haven’t been to the course in a long time. They swapped 9s. Eastover is by the 17 green. The trees bushes and fencing are high and thick enough to where it’s not noticeable. You may get some Spanish music serenading you on Sundays though.
Posted on 6/19/21 at 7:57 am to Zamperini2014
The fact that I've played the course a bunch, and I can't tell which of two par 5s you consider the worst par 5 ever designed speaks volumes about the course and two of the par 5s.
I used to really hate the layout, but the more I play it, the more I get accustomed to it and it isn't so bad. Don't get me wrong, it is tight, they need to make some architectual changes on a couple holes, and I don't like not having 13-14 drivers, but the more you play it, the more it grows on you, I think, bc you figure out the lines.
Ell, 13 is only 90 off? What side was going to be the high side? Seems to make much more sense for the high side to be the back (I.e. Off 180).
I used to really hate the layout, but the more I play it, the more I get accustomed to it and it isn't so bad. Don't get me wrong, it is tight, they need to make some architectual changes on a couple holes, and I don't like not having 13-14 drivers, but the more you play it, the more it grows on you, I think, bc you figure out the lines.
Ell, 13 is only 90 off? What side was going to be the high side? Seems to make much more sense for the high side to be the back (I.e. Off 180).
Posted on 6/19/21 at 8:14 am to The Johnny Lawrence
I believe instead of the lowest tier being back left it was supposed to be front left. Right now there are three tiers down the left side sloping front to back and two tiers on the right sloping front to back. It should have been two tiers along the back sloping right to left and three on the front sloping right to left. It put the lowest tier behind the bunker making a bunker shot more forgiving because you could play off the slopes. You would also have a more forgiving tee shot where the ball wouldn’t run off the back so easily.
Posted on 6/19/21 at 8:45 am to ell_13
OK, first things first — the word Redan. What does it mean?
The term Redan originates from a French word for part of a fortification. It is an arrow or V-shaped embankment toward the expected point of attack. Redans were common features in Malta in the 17th and 18th centuries and the Russians later used the design in defense of Napoleon and the French.
Umm…what does that have to do with golf?
Redan golf holes are well defended, like the military fortification for which they’re named. The green is offset close to a 45-degree angle moving from right to left and is guarded on the front left by a large, deep bunker. Usually seen in its original par-3 form, the Redan often plays as a mid-length to long par-3 to force longer irons and lower trajectory shots. They can range anywhere from 170 to 240 yards.
Got it. Are there any other defining characteristics of a Redan green?
The green slopes from the front right to back left (or vice versa on a reverse Redan). A common identifying feature is a large shoulder or hump on the front right of the green to help funnel balls back. While there are many different versions of the Redan, the traditional one has the front bunker and a second one situated behind the shoulder to catch all long shots. The common pin positions on Redans are in the middle or back of the green. It’s a genius design because it forces players to aim away from the hole in order to get it close.
Who came up with the idea?
The par-3 15th at charming North Berwick, in Scotland, is credited as the original Redan (though no single architect has been credited for designing the hole). While the club was formally founded in 1832, golf had been played on the property since the early parts of the 17th century. It wasn’t until 1868 that the club acquired the land where the famous 15th hole would eventually sit. The two architects who most commonly employed the Redan template were C.B. Macdonald and Seth Raynor. Most golden-age architects made use of the design at one point or another, and the Redan is making a return with throwback architects such as Tom Doak and Coore & Crenshaw.
The term Redan originates from a French word for part of a fortification. It is an arrow or V-shaped embankment toward the expected point of attack. Redans were common features in Malta in the 17th and 18th centuries and the Russians later used the design in defense of Napoleon and the French.
Umm…what does that have to do with golf?
Redan golf holes are well defended, like the military fortification for which they’re named. The green is offset close to a 45-degree angle moving from right to left and is guarded on the front left by a large, deep bunker. Usually seen in its original par-3 form, the Redan often plays as a mid-length to long par-3 to force longer irons and lower trajectory shots. They can range anywhere from 170 to 240 yards.
Got it. Are there any other defining characteristics of a Redan green?
The green slopes from the front right to back left (or vice versa on a reverse Redan). A common identifying feature is a large shoulder or hump on the front right of the green to help funnel balls back. While there are many different versions of the Redan, the traditional one has the front bunker and a second one situated behind the shoulder to catch all long shots. The common pin positions on Redans are in the middle or back of the green. It’s a genius design because it forces players to aim away from the hole in order to get it close.
Who came up with the idea?
The par-3 15th at charming North Berwick, in Scotland, is credited as the original Redan (though no single architect has been credited for designing the hole). While the club was formally founded in 1832, golf had been played on the property since the early parts of the 17th century. It wasn’t until 1868 that the club acquired the land where the famous 15th hole would eventually sit. The two architects who most commonly employed the Redan template were C.B. Macdonald and Seth Raynor. Most golden-age architects made use of the design at one point or another, and the Redan is making a return with throwback architects such as Tom Doak and Coore & Crenshaw.
Posted on 6/19/21 at 8:45 am to ChrisBurky
I am assuming that is what they were going for...
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