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rsb831
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Metairie CC course designer's obituary - New York Times
Joseph Bartholomew

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Since 1851, many remarkable black men and women did not receive obituaries in The New York Times. This month, with Overlooked, we’re adding their stories to our archives.


Interesting read about Bartholomew. He was quite the entrepreneur.


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re: Metairie CC course designer's obituary - New York Times
NYT glossed over the design being a Raynor. Seems important. It's like it was intentionally vague to allow you to think he designed it.

Did anyone else read it that way?


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Woolfman_8
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re: Metairie CC course designer's obituary - New York Times
Uhhh yea, he didn’t build MCC, Seth Raynor did.

No doubt JB had a big impact on the city and black golfers though.
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GWfool
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re: Metairie CC course designer's obituary - New York Times
Literally just listened to a podcast focusing on Raynor this morning with the head of the Raynor Society and they confirmed MCC is a Raynor design and he worked with Bartholomew because the members were adamant they wanted Bartholomew to be the construction superintendent of Raynor's design and sent him to travel and work with Raynor prior to construction. But Raynor designed, visited and oversaw it.


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re: Metairie CC course designer's obituary - New York Times
Interesting, which podcast was that? I’d like to give it a listen


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re: Metairie CC course designer's obituary - New York Times
Just downloaded a dozen episodes.


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namvet6566
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re: Metairie CC course designer's obituary - New York Times
Played there many times in the 70s and 80s. Had a group blacks and whites. One day saw someone get killed by lightenibg on the 10 th green
Ducky Gilbert was the pro, great man



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Woolfman_8
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re: Metairie CC course designer's obituary - New York Times
Ended up emailing him about the MCC rebuild to see what he thought, he is very excited about it. Said the guy in charge is great.


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re: Metairie CC course designer's obituary - New York Times
What is MCC doing for the redesign?


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Woolfman_8
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re: Metairie CC course designer's obituary - New York Times
Fixing drainage for sure. But I’ve heard it’s going back to raynor original design and then I’ve heard it’s a complete redo. So I’m not positive. He didn’t give any specifics


GWfool
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re: Metairie CC course designer's obituary - New York Times
They rolled out the golf plan this week, but I wasn't there. Previously I had heard two things which was try to go back to the original raynor design and the other was remodel with the addition of more trees etc. Looking forward to hopefully finding out the details this weekend.


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re: Metairie CC course designer's obituary - New York Times
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original raynor design


This is the goal.

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addition of more trees


Definitely not this.


GWfool
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original raynor design


This is the goal.

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addition of more trees


Definitely not this.


Great to hear!


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Woolfman_8
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re: Metairie CC course designer's obituary - New York Times
What did they lose from the original design that they are trying to bring back?


nugget
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re: Metairie CC course designer's obituary - New York Times
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original raynor design


With the resurgence of respect for golden-era architecture, I would have been shocked if this wasn’t the case. I’m excited to play there once it’s done. My only hope is they hire a competent superintendent that can make MCC one of the premier clubs in the state.


medtiger
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re: Metairie CC course designer's obituary - New York Times
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What did they lose from the original design that they are trying to bring back?


The course has been redesigned several times since it was built in 1922-1923. As it stands now, there are very little "Raynor" characteristics. The holes are still named after the templates or "ideal holes," but they mostly miss the mark when compared to other Raynor courses. The master plan rectifies that in a big way.


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re: Metairie CC course designer's obituary - New York Times
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MCC one of the premier clubs in the state.


That’s impossible


nugget
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re: Metairie CC course designer's obituary - New York Times
Why?


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Woolfman_8
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re: Metairie CC course designer's obituary - New York Times
What course can I look at hole by hole to get an idea of what Raynor designs are supposed to look like?


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