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re: Martin Slumbers head of R&A is not a LIV fan
Posted on 7/14/22 at 12:37 am to Mingo Was His NameO
Posted on 7/14/22 at 12:37 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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quote:Also, as a bit of an aside, I have worked with Middle Eastern sovereign wealth funds as an LP in alternative assets. They absolutely, 1000% will expect an economic return at some point (probably 5 - 7 years like most PE funds). That seems to be a consistent misunderstanding amongst both pro- and anti-LIV people: that they are an irrational actor willing to burn money purely to sportswash. Reputation laundering is a component, but they absolutely adhere to an internal IRR. You don’t grow the PIF like they do without being a disciplined investor. I agree, they aren't going to let it be a sieve, but I don't know that they're looking to make a huge profit. But if it doesn't get any kind of real revenue it will go away eventually
Not to cross over threads and boards, but what I saw from someone (lsufb1912, maybe?) on the MSB was just flat out fricking stupid. Of course LIV has to dominate professional golf; the model doesn’t work in the long run if they don’t. There is no co-existing as peer Tours in five years. That’s why LIV is offering nine figures to otherwise shitty and washed up players and why the Tour is trotting out 9/11 victim sob stories and pressing Senators and Congressmen. From a strategic economic perspective, this is winner take all. The loser dies.
If I were an advisor to LIV, and I am not, I would get someone other than Norman to run that operation. He is a liability and will be nothing but a drag going forward. I would also steer clear of Trump courses if you really want to reach the largest audience and not attach an additional weight to an already reputationally struggling upstart, but so far, it’s clear they’ve had a penchant for going after otherwise good clubs in a lot of financial trouble (Pumpkin Ridge, Doral, Bedminster).
Posted on 7/14/22 at 4:32 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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Well actually it is up for debate or the DOJ wouldn't have opened a probe and lawsuits wouldn't be getting ready to get filed.
This DOJ is a corrupt pile of shite. Our government is in bed with Saudi and will do its bidding. It’s nothing more than scare tactics
Posted on 7/14/22 at 4:34 am to AbuTheMonkey
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Also, as a bit of an aside, I have worked with Middle Eastern sovereign wealth funds as an LP in alternative assets. They absolutely, 1000% will expect an economic return at some point (probably 5 - 7 years like most PE funds). That seems to be a consistent misunderstanding amongst both pro- and anti-LIV people: that they are an irrational actor willing to burn money purely to sportswash.
Thank you. I’ve been trying to beat this fact through mingos thick skull for some time now.
Posted on 7/14/22 at 6:29 am to WaWaWeeWa
Admitting that there is an anti-trust case is also admitting that LIV is not a legit tour.
Posted on 7/14/22 at 6:46 am to AlxTgr
LIV can do what they want.
PGA can do what they want.
Problem?
PGA can do what they want.
Problem?
Posted on 7/14/22 at 12:02 pm to Bustedsack
When do we expect the LIV Women’s Tour? Oh that’s right, never mind.
Posted on 7/14/22 at 12:30 pm to MikeD
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When do we expect the LIV Women’s Tour? Oh that’s right, never mind.


Posted on 7/14/22 at 4:36 pm to WaWaWeeWa
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The rest of the golf world has a right to preserve their game and it’s traditions.
Then we should go back to its real roots and only allow amateurs.
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