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re: LIV Golf! Chicago Edition!

Posted on 9/19/22 at 1:51 pm to
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
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Posted on 9/19/22 at 1:51 pm to
quote:

I paraphrased, not directly quote. That was the implication of what he said.


It wasn't, but we don't operate under the facts on this board, so carry on
Posted by Sherman Klump
Wellman College
Member since Jul 2011
4550 posts
Posted on 9/19/22 at 1:51 pm to
Yeah just don’t compare these teams to dynasty franchises in established leagues.
Posted by Sherman Klump
Wellman College
Member since Jul 2011
4550 posts
Posted on 9/19/22 at 1:52 pm to
Explain this to me

Robert Walters: "Well, they do, but then they have to win money in order to recoup against the contract, so they are a little bit different."
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
29504 posts
Posted on 9/19/22 at 1:55 pm to
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Explain this to me

Robert Walters: "Well, they do, but then they have to win money in order to recoup against the contract, so they are a little bit different."


Some of the lower level guys got advances. All of the big names did not. Their winnings are their winnings and their signing bonuses are signing bonuses. As confirmed multiple times, in some cases by the player themselves.

Im not disputing some guys got advances, they did, but you using only half of the information is some Joe Biden shite
This post was edited on 9/19/22 at 1:57 pm
Posted by bopper50
Sugarland Texas
Member since Mar 2009
9806 posts
Posted on 9/19/22 at 2:55 pm to
LINK /


Mickelson deal stated.


LIV Player have to be recruiters too. That's why DJ brought in that stiff Pat Perez.
This post was edited on 9/19/22 at 2:58 pm
Posted by theone
LSU
Member since Nov 2005
1961 posts
Posted on 9/19/22 at 2:57 pm to
I guess I shouldn’t 4Aces is way better than Liverpool and the Ya Jess based on winning percentage.

I mean, calm down I was simply referencing that a team dominating isn’t always bad.

In fact outside of the NFL that pretty much every sport.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
29504 posts
Posted on 9/19/22 at 3:04 pm to
quote:

Mickelson deal stated.


LIV Player have to be recruiters too. That's why DJ brought in that stiff Pat Perez.


That article didn't say his money was advanced, and it didn't provide anything we haven't known for a long time. Considering it's a month old, that's not surprising.

What point are you trying to make?
Posted by bopper50
Sugarland Texas
Member since Mar 2009
9806 posts
Posted on 9/19/22 at 3:35 pm to
LIV contracts are very restrictive and demanding.

LIV Golfers are employees and are not the Independent Contractors that they claimed.

Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
29504 posts
Posted on 9/19/22 at 3:41 pm to
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LIV Golfers are employees and are not the Independent Contractors that they claimed.


They can play wherever they want when there is no LIV event. They have to play LIV events, that's what they money is for.

No shite. I'll ask again, are you just incredibly dumb or a dick rider to the extreme? I'm having a hard to deciding which is more embarrassing

Posted by bopper50
Sugarland Texas
Member since Mar 2009
9806 posts
Posted on 9/19/22 at 3:52 pm to
Again you contribute nothing, just an abrasive dipstick.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
29504 posts
Posted on 9/19/22 at 4:01 pm to
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Again you contribute nothing


You posted a month old article, I've contributed a decent amount of information multiple posters weren't aware of.

You just don't like it, so you act like it didn't happen like a 5 year old
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
52972 posts
Posted on 9/19/22 at 5:33 pm to
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LIV Golfers are employees and are not the Independent Contractors that they claimed.


That’s a 5 point test for federal tax purposes.

the degree of control exercised by the alleged employer;
the extent of the relative investments of the [alleged] employee and employer;
the degree to which the "employee's" opportunity for profit and loss is determined by the "employer";
the skill and initiative required in performing the job; and
the permanency of the relationship.

Arguments to be made on both sides, but I lean towards contractors based on the info we know.
This post was edited on 9/19/22 at 5:44 pm
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
103916 posts
Posted on 9/19/22 at 6:13 pm to
You do? I have to be at every liv event and the schedule is controlled by LIV. I have to wear LIV apparel. I have to recruit other players to LIV. That’s a very very very fine line they are walking there, and would lean to employees. And yes Mingo, I actually have to deal with this for job purposes. It’s a big issue with hospitals on the contractor/employee relationship
This post was edited on 9/19/22 at 6:16 pm
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
29504 posts
Posted on 9/19/22 at 6:22 pm to
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And yes Mingo, I actually have to deal with this for job purposes. It’s a big issue with hospitals on the contractor/employee relationship


You processing payroll isn't "dealing" with employment law dweeb
Posted by bopper50
Sugarland Texas
Member since Mar 2009
9806 posts
Posted on 9/19/22 at 6:40 pm to
Deep in the article is detailed that the Players are expected to solicit new players to join.

LIV controls their apparel, their interviews and their likeness.

I really wonder if Mickelson wouldn't have been such a fool with his money, would he have joined LIV.

Because his argument that the Tour used his likeness in promotions doesn't hold water.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
52972 posts
Posted on 9/19/22 at 7:39 pm to
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You do? I have to be at every liv event and the schedule is controlled by LIV. I have to wear LIV apparel. I have to recruit other players to LIV. That’s a very very very fine line they are walking there, and would lean to employees. And yes Mingo, I actually have to deal with this for job purposes. It’s a big issue with hospitals on the contractor/employee relationship


Like I said. Good arguments on both sides. The first 3 prongs seem to indicate employer. That last 2 seem to indicate contractor. The crux of the issue, I think, is that it isn’t full time.

I would love to be a lawyer on the case if Norman or Monohan are reading!!!
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
52972 posts
Posted on 9/19/22 at 7:40 pm to
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Because his argument that the Tour used his likeness in promotions doesn't hold water.


If it doesn’t hold water with the tour why did you list it as an example as to why LIV is an employer?
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
29504 posts
Posted on 9/19/22 at 7:44 pm to
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If it doesn’t hold water with the tour why did you list it as an example as to why LIV is an employer?


Because he's a retard who doesn't have a clue what he's talking about
Posted by bopper50
Sugarland Texas
Member since Mar 2009
9806 posts
Posted on 9/19/22 at 7:46 pm to
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If it doesn’t hold water with the tour why did you list it as an example as to why LIV is an employer?



Good point and I was using it in Mickelson case only because of his PR nightmare when all of this began.

He was definitely in scramble mode.
Posted by Swagga
504
Member since Dec 2009
17356 posts
Posted on 9/19/22 at 9:15 pm to
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Bama, Yankees, Dodgers, Liverpool





quote:

DJ and Reed are crushing everyone I see as a good thing. It’s a target for everyone else.



Hooooooooly shite.
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