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re: LIV Golf! Chicago Edition!
Posted on 9/19/22 at 10:44 am to Mingo Was His NameO
Posted on 9/19/22 at 10:44 am to Mingo Was His NameO
I understand there’s money to be gained but it’s not like they are out there thinking ‘Oh DJ said I needed to shoot -7 today or our teams gonna lose, I really need to do my best. Maybe bust this 3w instead of a 3i’. Especially when it’s a shotgun start and for the most part they have no clue how the rest of the ‘team’ is performing during their round. You have to admit that.
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Posted on 9/19/22 at 10:47 am to Bawpaw
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I understand there’s money to be gained but it’s not like they are out there thinking ‘Oh DJ said I needed to shoot -7 today or our teams gonna lose, I really need to do my best.
No, they're thinking "I'm in 40th, I have no shot to win, but if I can put up a good number I can win a million dollars from the team competition. I'm going to try today instead of mailing it in"
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Especially when it’s a shotgun start and for the most part they have no clue how the rest of the ‘team’ is performing during their round.
There's scoreboards all over the place. And shooting 65 is going to help the team no matter what
Posted on 9/19/22 at 11:35 am to Mingo Was His NameO
So the guaranteed payouts aren’t good for the competitive aspect then? Is that what you are implying? Because if the difference in 40th and 30th in a normal PGA tournament is 10k you can bet nobody is mailing it in.
So you think they are doing math in their head throughout their round tallying their team score versus the other teams? Or are the scoreboards showing individual as well as team scores? Let’s pretend they are, so they play a little risky and go hard down the stretch and get on a heater, but another teammate tries the same and finishes +6 over the last five holes. I think you are somewhat intelligent, do you see how the team concept doesn’t work in the LIV scenario?
So you think they are doing math in their head throughout their round tallying their team score versus the other teams? Or are the scoreboards showing individual as well as team scores? Let’s pretend they are, so they play a little risky and go hard down the stretch and get on a heater, but another teammate tries the same and finishes +6 over the last five holes. I think you are somewhat intelligent, do you see how the team concept doesn’t work in the LIV scenario?
Posted on 9/19/22 at 11:56 am to Taurus
quote:Did he recover from walking into the rope?
Dechambeau playing good
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This post was edited on 9/19/22 at 12:00 pm
Posted on 9/19/22 at 11:57 am to Bawpaw
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So the guaranteed payouts aren’t good for the competitive aspect then? Is that what you are implying?
No, the team payout does the exact opposite. It gives every player in the field incentive to play well, even when they don't have a chance to win the individual event.
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Because if the difference in 40th and 30th in a normal PGA tournament is 10k you can bet nobody is mailing it in.
Uh, that's exactly what they're going to do. $10k doesn't move the needle for even a middling Tour player, but a million dollars does.
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Or are the scoreboards showing individual as well as team scores?
Of course they are. Your trying to make this extraordinarily more complicated than it is.
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Let’s pretend they are, so they play a little risky and go hard down the stretch and get on a heater, but another teammate tries the same and finishes +6 over the last five holes. I think you are somewhat intelligent, do you see how the team concept doesn’t work in the LIV scenario?
2 of 4 scores count in rounds 1 and 2. 3 out of 4 scores count in round 3.
Are you under the impression this type of team golf was just created? Colleges have played this exact type tournament for forever
Posted on 9/19/22 at 12:10 pm to Bawpaw
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Golf in no way, shape, or form is a team sport when playing multiple day stroke play tournament. Those guys have zero financial incentive to plan or strategize to try to win as a team. If you think differently, you aren’t very bright. I can promise you they don’t give two fricks about a ‘team’.
Posted on 9/19/22 at 12:12 pm to Bawpaw
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40th and 30th in a normal PGA tournament is 10k you can bet nobody is mailing it in.
So what you’re saying is players on the pga tour will still compete even when no money is at stake, but players on LIV will not compete when money is at stake. Brilliant.
Posted on 9/19/22 at 12:13 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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Colleges have played this exact type tournament for forever
I was wondering when you would tell him. I was hoping you held out a bit longer. Posted on 9/19/22 at 12:27 pm to BBONDS25
No. I said the opposite. I said they would try their best to finish as high as possible due to being able to earn more money.
Also, the college tournaments are shotgun starts? I’m honestly not familiar. Do the colleges have a coach updating every player throughout the round? Does LIV have a team coach or statistician giving the caddy/player updates? I think you both are giving too much credit to a pro golfer making millions giving two craps about a team finish.
Also, the college tournaments are shotgun starts? I’m honestly not familiar. Do the colleges have a coach updating every player throughout the round? Does LIV have a team coach or statistician giving the caddy/player updates? I think you both are giving too much credit to a pro golfer making millions giving two craps about a team finish.
Posted on 9/19/22 at 12:31 pm to BBONDS25
The interviewed Reed directly after his last putt. He knew his team needed DJ to birdie the last. So they know what’s going on and they care.
Also I’m in the camp of sports is better with a dominate force (Bama, Yankees, Dodgers, Liverpool) so the fact that DJ and Reed are crushing everyone I see as a good thing. It’s a target for everyone else.
Also I’m in the camp of sports is better with a dominate force (Bama, Yankees, Dodgers, Liverpool) so the fact that DJ and Reed are crushing everyone I see as a good thing. It’s a target for everyone else.
Posted on 9/19/22 at 12:32 pm to Bawpaw
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the college tournaments are shotgun starts?
Often times, yes.
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Do the colleges have a coach updating every player throughout the round?
Also yes
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Does LIV have a team coach or statistician giving the caddy/player updates?
They have fricking scoreboards all over the place. Why do you need a statistician to know how to read a score?
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I think you both are giving too much credit to a pro golfer making millions giving two craps about a team finish.
I don't know what else to say other than you're a moron if you don't think they care about winning a million fricking dollars. a million dollars dude, a shite ton of money. Are you insane?
Posted on 9/19/22 at 12:50 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
A million dollars is the single person payout to each member of the winning team at the end of the season or each tournament?
Posted on 9/19/22 at 12:53 pm to theone
Man this comparison is so bad it’s almost unbelievable you typed it.
Posted on 9/19/22 at 12:54 pm to Bawpaw
I don’t think it matters. Their attorney said it nets against what they were paid up front. I know there’s been conflicting reports on this but gotta roll with their attorney.
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Posted on 9/19/22 at 1:05 pm to Bawpaw
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A million dollars is the single person payout to each member of the winning team at the end of the season or each tournament?
Jesus dude, did you bother to do even one second of educating yourself before spouting off?
Each tournament plus $4 million each for the Team Championship final event.
The guys from the 4 aces are going to rack up like $10 million just in team earnings. DJ, who's cleaning up in every tournament, is going to combine his individual and team earnings for like $30 million in 14 events
Posted on 9/19/22 at 1:06 pm to Sherman Klump
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Their attorney said it nets against what they were paid up front. I know there’s been conflicting reports on this but gotta roll with their attorney.
That's not what he said, but ok
Posted on 9/19/22 at 1:15 pm to Sherman Klump
You realize LIV's plan is to sell off these teams as franchises right? Cam Smith is part owner in his team, the thought is that it will evolve to something similar to F1.
but you be you
but you be you
Posted on 9/19/22 at 1:26 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
No. I let you educate me because you know everything. It’s why I just come to you for all things LIV, workout, diet, accounting, etc. You’re the man.
Posted on 9/19/22 at 1:45 pm to Bawpaw
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I let you educate me because you know everything.
I certainly don't know everything, but I do try to understand even the most fundamental facts of shite that I decide to have an opinion about
Posted on 9/19/22 at 1:49 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
I paraphrased, not directly quote. That was the implication of what he said.
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