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re: Letting faster players through.
Posted on 7/9/24 at 10:25 am to HottyToddy7
Posted on 7/9/24 at 10:25 am to HottyToddy7
You are wrong. That’s now how it works on public courses on a weekend. You don’t get to just waltz around a busy course in an hour interrupting multiple groups.
You are probably the a-hole who hits into people as soon as he has to sit on a tee box for 2 minutes.
You are probably the a-hole who hits into people as soon as he has to sit on a tee box for 2 minutes.
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Posted on 7/9/24 at 10:26 am to PhiTiger1764
That’s your opinion and it’s wrong.
You are missing the point, if you aren’t waiting. If you are waiting on the group in front of you regularly, you don’t let them through.
This is usually Sat/Sun morning. But the time of the week doesn’t determine it, it’s if you are being help up or not.
You are missing the point, if you aren’t waiting. If you are waiting on the group in front of you regularly, you don’t let them through.
This is usually Sat/Sun morning. But the time of the week doesn’t determine it, it’s if you are being help up or not.
This post was edited on 7/9/24 at 10:29 am
Posted on 7/9/24 at 1:47 pm to HottyToddy7
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You are wrong 100000%. That’s some entitlement bullshite. If they are waiting and you aren’t, let them go.
1. Playing at the established pace of play for 90% of golf courses in the country on a busy course on a Saturday morning and going about your round.
2. Playing faster and expecting to be let through to play at the pace you want despite it being 25% faster than the expected pace.
You really think the first group is the "entitlement bullshite"
Posted on 7/9/24 at 2:43 pm to CoachChappy
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The “standard” 4 hour round is stupid. At many courses, especially in carts, you can play in under 4 hours.
When I belong to FBCC, we all owned our carts.
If your foursome couldn't play in 3 hours and 15 minutes, you would get run over.
Posted on 7/9/24 at 2:49 pm to VernonPLSUfan
Way too many downvotes for the notion of letting faster players through.
If the course is backed up, then odiously not. If there is an open hole or more in front of you, you let them through. Period. Weekend, Weekday, no matter how many players are in the group.
That’s common courtesy. That’s proper etiquette. If you don’t think you should do this, you’re wrong. They will be out of your way in less than 5 minutes and gain distance from you from there. The pace of play for the entire course will be better. Don’t be an a-hole
If the course is backed up, then odiously not. If there is an open hole or more in front of you, you let them through. Period. Weekend, Weekday, no matter how many players are in the group.
That’s common courtesy. That’s proper etiquette. If you don’t think you should do this, you’re wrong. They will be out of your way in less than 5 minutes and gain distance from you from there. The pace of play for the entire course will be better. Don’t be an a-hole
This post was edited on 7/9/24 at 2:59 pm
Posted on 7/9/24 at 3:04 pm to icegator337
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icegator337
You must be the guy that drives in the left lane thinking everyone behind you can frick off because you’re going the speed limit.
There is no universally “established pace” of golf. I’d bet a dollar to a dime your golf buddies all think you’re a slow player
Posted on 7/9/24 at 4:09 pm to PhiTiger1764
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nothing but 1.5 hour round singles show up behind them.
Tell them to pair up. I’m not sitting there letting singles through on a busy course. I show up occasionally as a single and fully expect to be paired.
Posted on 7/9/24 at 4:11 pm to dpd901
In his defense he did say it was a busy course. If there is nowhere for a group to go and the course is backed up, you still let a group through?
Your analogy is more along the lines of someone in the fast lane going the speed limit. The same speed the 20 cars in front oh him are going, with not a lot of room between vehicles.
Your analogy is more along the lines of someone in the fast lane going the speed limit. The same speed the 20 cars in front oh him are going, with not a lot of room between vehicles.
This post was edited on 7/9/24 at 4:13 pm
Posted on 7/9/24 at 4:27 pm to BBONDS25
No one is saying you let people through if you are waiting on the group in front of you. This whole conversation is if there is room in front of you.
These guys are saying they don’t let groups through because in their opinion, their pace of play is “right” and the people waiting on them is “wrong”.
It’s a ridiculous theory.
These guys are saying they don’t let groups through because in their opinion, their pace of play is “right” and the people waiting on them is “wrong”.
It’s a ridiculous theory.
This post was edited on 7/9/24 at 4:35 pm
Posted on 7/9/24 at 4:58 pm to HottyToddy7
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These guys are saying they don’t let groups through because in their opinion, their pace of play is “right” and the people waiting on them is “wrong”.
If there's literally no one in front then yeah, they should let them through. I guess I'm assuming there are other groups ahead (even if they're a full hole ahead) considering the OP says his tee time is at 8:15 on Saturday morning
But it's still ridiculous for OP to make this big of a stink for a foursome playing in four hours on a saturday morning. But a lot probably depends on the golf course. If I'm playing Oakbourne in a money game, not giving many putts in a foursome, I'm probably going to be slower than I would in a casual round at vieux chenes. Fast undulating greens will obviously slow down pace
This post was edited on 7/9/24 at 5:07 pm
Posted on 7/9/24 at 7:17 pm to HottyToddy7
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No one is saying you let people through if you are waiting on the group in front of you. This whole conversation is if there is room in front of you.
If no one is in front of you or you are losing pace to groups way ahead of you, sure, let the faster group through. Let them through every time in that situation. I don’t disagree with that.
If my group is on hole 4 and the next group ahead is on hole 6, and then some time later we are on 7 and they are on 9, we are keeping pace. If that pace is sub 4 hours, you aren’t getting waved through.
If you feel you are entitled to be let through in that situation, then you need to learn a little golf etiquette. The course is not your personal playground.
Posted on 7/9/24 at 7:39 pm to PhiTiger1764
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If my group is on hole 4 and the next group ahead is on hole 6, and then some time later we are on 7 and they are on 9, we are keeping pace. If that pace is sub 4 hours, you aren’t getting waved through.
Go frick yourself. You are a piece of shite. Just let them through. Why does it matter? You just need to be a dick?
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If you feel you are entitled to be let through in that situation, then you need to learn a little golf etiquette. The course is not your personal playground.
And you aren’t the God of golf. It affects your day none. You just have to be an a-hole and you are THE problem.
This post was edited on 7/9/24 at 7:43 pm
Posted on 7/10/24 at 8:11 am to PhiTiger1764
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If my group is on hole 4 and the next group ahead is on hole 6, and then some time later we are on 7 and they are on 9, we are keeping pace. If that pace is sub 4 hours, you aren’t getting waved through.
You aren’t the arbiter of pace of play. If you’re 2 holes behind the group in front of you and the group behind you is pushing you, you let them through. Your pace can be 2 hours. It doesn’t matter. Golf etiquette aside, Common human courtesy says you let them through. Is your ego that fragile? Are you so narcissistic that you think it’s all about you? Are you so selfish that you think 5 minutes of your inconvenience is more important than potentially an hour of someone else’s?
What if you were the one waiting on every shot with open holes in front of the group holding you up? You’re content to wait? Something tells me you wouldn’t be. Of course, you probably don’t know that feeling because you’ve outed yourself as a slow arse player.
This post was edited on 7/10/24 at 8:12 am
Posted on 7/10/24 at 8:31 am to dpd901
Maybe I just play fast enough that this is never an issue but not even sure how a group would catch up to me (assuming I'm not being held up by a group in front) unless they are actively hitting into me to start with.
Even if someone is waiting on the tee box for me to hit my approach shot, I'm never going to wait for the group behind to hit their approach, putt, go to the next hole, tee off and then hit their approach.
That's a minimum of 10-12 minutes (probably closer to 15 actually) and there's zero chance I'm waiting that long for you to pass. Maybe if it's a single that can tee off with us and then keep going, but if its a group then no way.
Even if someone is waiting on the tee box for me to hit my approach shot, I'm never going to wait for the group behind to hit their approach, putt, go to the next hole, tee off and then hit their approach.
That's a minimum of 10-12 minutes (probably closer to 15 actually) and there's zero chance I'm waiting that long for you to pass. Maybe if it's a single that can tee off with us and then keep going, but if its a group then no way.
Posted on 7/10/24 at 9:13 am to JohnnyKilroy
Then don’t play golf.
Posted on 7/10/24 at 9:21 am to HottyToddy7
If you take 10-15 minutes to pass me, you aren't playing fast enough to warrant a pass.
Posted on 7/10/24 at 10:11 am to JohnnyKilroy
It doesn’t take that long. It takes 3-5 minutes
Posted on 7/10/24 at 10:19 am to JohnnyKilroy
I went and played as a single a couple weeks ago and got paired with 3 other people, 2 of whom were new to golf and slow in general. There ended up being a single walking behind us who wasn’t fast, but was waiting on every shot while we weren’t waiting at all.
Even if you aren’t a slow player (I’m one of the fastest players I know) there’s a possibility you’re playing with people who are slow and it’s still important to be cognizant of your surroundings.
Even if you aren’t a slow player (I’m one of the fastest players I know) there’s a possibility you’re playing with people who are slow and it’s still important to be cognizant of your surroundings.
Posted on 7/10/24 at 10:49 am to HottyToddy7
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It doesn’t take that long. It takes 3-5 minutes
Let me know the next time you play 3 full shots and a putt or two in 120 seconds.
If you're not hitting your approach until I'm off the green, then you have to hit your approach (1 shot), assuming you hit the green I will assume you are gonna 2 putt, then I have to wait for you to make your way over to the next hole, tee off (1 shot) and then hit your approach (1 shot) for me to now tee off after letting you pass.
As a single that's taking at least 10 minutes. If you're in a group that's more like 15+. I'm not waiting on you/yall.
Posted on 7/10/24 at 10:51 am to JohnnyKilroy
No you hit your tee shots, wait for them to hit theirs, you all drive to your ball in the fairway. They hit approach shots, then putt then leave. Then you hit approach shot and continue your round. You are waiting to play 5 minutes total.
This post was edited on 7/10/24 at 10:52 am
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