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Lookout Security

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Smart App Protector

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Ok these two.. while great, will cause memory problems, and run your GPU into the ground. I always recommend: Do NOT open something unless you know what it is, and do NOT download apps unless you know the developer.. if you do both of those: these apps are not needed.

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Weather

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Switch to Weather Bug, it is less invasive, and it doesn't crash as much. It has also been written with GB in mind, and is able to be stored in the memory a good bit better.

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Messages

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While the stock app is ok.. switch to Handcent SMS.. you wont be disappointed.

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Swype Keyboard 6.3

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I'm personally not a fan of this keyboard, but if you are, this is a fine and dandy app, but hopefully it is not running down your GPU while running the background.

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Did you ever explain the problem with ATK? I looked but it seemed all of your advice was geared towards Lynyrd's phone.

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Ok.. since Froyo - Android 2.2 - google build a memory protocol into the operating system, just look at Lynyrd's Post:

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Data Manager Services 2.5

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That program built into the Android operating system takes programs (apps) and stores them into memory in order to "keep multitasking" (the BIGGEST thing Android has over anything else) relevant and active, while not draining your battery or sucking up your GPU.

The biggest complaints I hear from android users: "The batter life is horrible" .. So many android apps are designed to run in the background, and any app written since Froyo is designed to be running as a "shadow" program in the operating system, in order to make sure everything is always up to date. (Anything you have "notifications" turned on for, will automatically start back up within 10-15 minutes of you killing it anyways, to try to put itself back into the memory of the Android system) Why isn't your phone getting as good of battery life..? cause every time one of those programs starts back up, your phone has to come out of sleep.

"But --- my phone is always running so slow, so I have to use Advance Task Kill"

This is also a misconception because by using ATK you are slowing down your phone, because these apps have to keep resetting themselves and restarting, so your phone is constantly running full fledged apps in the background instead of just letting the Android operating system put them away for safe storage.

Lastly: Think of ATK as Ctr Alt Delete, did you know there is always a bunch of programs running on Windows? Yes of course you did, if you "Ctrl, Alt Delete" sometimes, look under "Processes" ... how often do you have to actually go under your processes and "End Process" .. not "Force Close", but "End Process". I differentiate the two because: when you use Advance Task Killer you aren't force closing programs, you are Ending the Process completely.

The biggest problem with this, is just like in the "Processes" tab of Task Manager, the things you are killing in Advance Task Killer are functions of the Android Operating system, and you are corrupting all of the data that was running when you Ended the Process, and there is no guarantee that data will be fixed.

Now that I've said all of this, Lynyrd and Sic, the reason I actually keep ATK around is because guess what, every once and awhile, I actually need to push Ctrl, alt delete on my computer, and well, every once in awhile, you might want to as well.

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eta: Went into manage apps under all...can't uninstall weather or swype...just force close them. Will the task killer keep them off?

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Noooooo you seriously don't want Task Killer messing with stock apps like that, that is honestly where the biggest problem of all stems from honestly. Anything stock is fine* btw, the reason anything "stock" was running when you looked at that, was because you were working with your stock settings. That's why "settings" was even in your "running programs"

I'm honestly starting to think you are running a widgets that is slowing down your phone.. that or your "security guards" are always running, and never letting your phone run smooth.

I'm not rooted so I can't take a screen shot of the new feature they have that shows all 7 screens simultaneously. Maybe I have too much running, but I didn't notice it before GB. Only after...I guess I have conflicting data and until the programs I have running are compatible with GB, it will be slower.

Ehhh...it is what it is I suppose. Thanks for all your help though!

Too many widgets huh?

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I have 4 small 1x1 widgets for wireless, bluetooth, gps and airplane, the weather widget

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1x1 widgets, I have these on a 2nd screen,

Get rid of the weather widget, download Weather Bug, and use it's widget, it's cleaner and uses memory better.

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small note pad to type quick to-do's in. Google search widget, calendar widget,

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These are great as well: I recommend "ColorNote" for your notepad app, it's a clean app, and uses almost no memory.

Calendar Widget should go on another screen than your home screen as well.

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Flip clock (I added it). 4 small widgets for quick contacts (stock)

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I honestly don't understand the Flip Clock thing.. but more power to ya, but is it really needed?

For contacts, I seriously hate the way that Moto does contacts, so I guess this is probably a needed thing, I personally just keep "Google Voice" on my home screen so I never have to go to any contact, just say them.

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Another stock widget giving directions on widgets. the stock music widget. Pandora widget. Espn Widget and 3 news widgets. Every space is completely full on all 7 screens. I didn't like any of them looking empty.

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You have 7 screens and you have to fill them up.. this is telling but, I have 9 screens and use 4:

I use the weatherbug widget, a widget for mobile network, and 2 "power" widgets so I can change my screen brightness 6 different ways. THAT's IT. I actually have my screens setup a lot like an iPhone.. with folders and apps, and 0 widgets on my 1st and 2nd screen. 2 widgets on my -1 screen and the 2 power bars on my 3rd screen.

Also let me put it this way.. there is a reason Apple will never allow Widgets on the iPhone.

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My biggest thing is I recommend pulling all widgets from your home page.. nothing screams slower phone like bogging down the main screen of the phone.

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They are on every page. Although never diagnosed...I think I have a touch of OCD and like things neat and in order..one is for music, one is for games, one is for news, etc...each screen is it's on "home screen" for each topic.

Oh well...back to your regularly scheduled thread! Sorry for the hijack Fox! Thanks for your help projekt!

No. This is good. The constant Batman talk was starting to get

Alright thanks.