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re: SNES Classic September 29

Posted on 6/26/17 at 2:29 pm to
Posted by BulldogXero
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Posted on 6/26/17 at 2:29 pm to
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Everyone seems to be overlooking Star Fox 2, which has previously been unreleased.


Nah. Just like every game on the list, it has been available via emulator for years.
Posted by GeauxWarTigers
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Posted on 6/26/17 at 2:37 pm to
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Nah. Just like every game on the list, it has been available via emulator for years.


Not the complete version.
Posted by BulldogXero
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 6/26/17 at 2:40 pm to
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Not the complete version.


Not sure what you mean
Posted by musick
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Posted on 6/26/17 at 3:00 pm to
The star fox 2 floating out in the ROM world is not the finished version. It's an early, unfinished build.


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This game was scheduled to be released in the summer of 1995. Despite its cancellation, over the years various Japanese prototype ROM images of the game were leaked online by various non-Nintendo parties, but it was not until 2015 that the public learned a fully mastered ROM image has been long realised, albeit remains unreleased for legal reasons,[2] until 2017. Whilst originally no official English version of the ROM image existed, an unofficial fan translation patch was released to work with the newest version of the leaked ROM images.


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The game's release was canceled due to the impending release of the Nintendo 64 and the desire to use the most advanced system available for a new Star Fox game,[3] among other reasons such as competition too soon changing the public's perception of what 3D games should be like.[2] 22 years after its original intended release date, the game will be officially released as part of the Super NES Classic Edition microconsole, to be released in September 2017.[4][5]
This post was edited on 6/26/17 at 3:02 pm
Posted by TheCorelton
Member since Oct 2013
638 posts
Posted on 6/26/17 at 3:06 pm to
If it came with Turtles in Time and Chrono Trigger it would be the best release ever. Still pretty sweet for what it is, though.
Posted by BulldogXero
Member since Oct 2011
10207 posts
Posted on 6/26/17 at 3:37 pm to
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The star fox 2 floating out in the ROM world is not the finished version. It's an early, unfinished build.


No, I'm pretty sure the Star Fox 2 ROM is more or less finished. What you quoted doesn't mean that Nintendo is altering the ROM in any way by including it with the SNES classic.
Posted by musick
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Posted on 6/26/17 at 3:43 pm to
It's not
Posted by GeauxWarTigers
Auburn
Member since Oct 2010
18046 posts
Posted on 6/26/17 at 3:45 pm to
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A ROM image was leaked of an early alpha version of the game,[14] which came from a source code archive dating to when the game was in early development.[15] This version features a rudimentary multiplayer mode. Another ROM, compiled from the latest known source code before the project was cancelled, can also be found—this version is nearly complete and contains minor bugs, debug code, and unfinished features, however, it lacks the multiplayer mode found in the alpha version. These ROMs can be played using a SNES emulator and can be run on real hardware if burned to a cartridge with a Super FX chip. Additionally, a fan-made patch can be added to the near-final ROM—this fixes most of the bugs, removes the debug code and the unfinished features, and translates the game's dialog into English (a version of this patch also exists without the language translation).[16] In an interview with Nintendo Life in 2015, Cuthbert reveals he has a copy of the game's finalized ROM image, completely reviewed and debugged by Mario Club, which he acquired during the development of Star Fox Command, and states that the mastered ROM image sustains many elements that remain missing from the leaked prototype ROM images
Posted by Raz
Member since Oct 2006
8394 posts
Posted on 6/26/17 at 7:12 pm to
ITT:

[x] People complaining possible lack of supply
[x] People complaining about the price
[ ] People who understand supply and demand
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
16556 posts
Posted on 6/26/17 at 8:50 pm to
I can bitch about the price all I want and understand S&D, I still wouldn't buy it at $50. Probably would take $30 or less to get me interested. Then it would sit in a box and collect dust as a collectible. It's worthless to me otherwise. Nintendo's artificial supply and demand is a money spinner and I can appreciate that even if I think the price is awful.

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did all of that yourself?


Yeah it's super easy, all you need is a micro SD card, a raspberry pi 3, and some USB or Bluetooth controllers.
This post was edited on 6/26/17 at 8:57 pm
Posted by Bigpoppat
Drinking a Manhattan
Member since Oct 2008
9272 posts
Posted on 6/26/17 at 8:59 pm to
Sorry to ask a noob question... But can you give me a site or tutorial on how to do that? Maybe a list of supplies needed.

I'd love to have a library of games like you mentioned
Posted by bbrownso
Member since Mar 2008
8985 posts
Posted on 6/26/17 at 9:28 pm to
Screw you Nintendo. I was huge fan for years growing up and I was excited about the NES Classic, but no more!

I'm not going to bother getting excited because Amazon will get 4 and they will immediately be bought and relisted for $400. And 4% of the demand will manage to get one at retail price while everyone will either get nothing or screwed by resellers because you still won't recognize demand (or mysteriously be unable to make enough product).

Apple, Sony, Microsoft have temporary sell-outs, while Nintendo cannot meet demand MONTHS after launch.

So again, screw you Nintendo!

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We aren’t providing specific numbers, but we will produce significantly more units of Super NES Classic Edition than we did of NES Classic Edition. Super Nintendo Entertainment System: Super NES Classic Edition is currently planned to ship from Sept. 29 until the end of calendar year 2017. At this time, we have nothing to announce regarding any possible shipments beyond this year.

This post was edited on 6/26/17 at 9:35 pm
Posted by WilliamTaylor21
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Member since Dec 2013
38221 posts
Posted on 6/26/17 at 10:39 pm to
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Everyone seems to be overlooking Star Fox 2, which has previously been unreleased.

Star Fox 2 isn't worth $80. Build a pie and get hundreds of games for NES, SNES, Atari, Sega, Gameboy, N64, PS1, etc, etc., for less than $80.

I searched for the NES Classic for months before eventually saying screw it and going the pie route. Now it just pisses me off seeing these clowns trying to cash in on these things.
Posted by WilliamTaylor21
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Member since Dec 2013
38221 posts
Posted on 6/26/17 at 10:47 pm to
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Sorry to ask a noob question..

Amazon Kit
Only other things you'll need is a keyboard and laptop (plus controllers obviously)... you can also buy those parts individually, but the kit just makes sure you have everything.

As far as tutorials, just Google "How to build RetroPie" and you'll find dozens of tutorials. Also some videos on YouTube that will walk you through it.

I had never done something like this before but within an hour or so of getting my supplies I had Mario up and running.
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
16556 posts
Posted on 6/27/17 at 6:25 am to
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Sorry to ask a noob question... But can you give me a site or tutorial on how to do that? Maybe a list of supplies needed. I'd love to have a library of games like you mentioned


LINK

Get at least a 64Gb, maybe 128Gb micro SD (if you want a lot of PS1 games and going to be overclocking) card depending on how big you want to go with your library. 32Gb is fine if you are just going cart systems.

Depending on your libraries, I really like the PS3 Sixaxis controller if you want PS1/N64 games and will be overclocking to play more of them. Overclocking is pretty easy, but I will not give a tutorial on it. You will have to find that on your own. Doing it without cooling/heat sink can lead to destruction of your Pi, it will also lead to a shorter life.

If you want to stick to the older cart systems without overclocking, the 8bitdo SNES controllers are great. Go SNES over NES, the NES ones get uncomfortable quick. Some N64 and PS1 games do work without overclocking. Mostly the lower end graphics games.

Download the latest img for RPi3 here:
LINK

There are tutorials all over there. You basically need guiformat from here:
LINK

Format your micro SD card into FAT32 with guiformat. Then get something like win32diskimager to put your retropie img on your micro SD card:
LINK

Put the micro SD card into your RPi 3 and then hook it up to your computer, HDMI first, then power. Once it is done loading, you will have to setup your controller. If you have a 8bitdo controller, you will need to go wired first. Then you will have to go into options and install the permissions for 8bitdo controllers, then you can connect it via the Bluetooth in Bluetooth options. Don't remember the setup for sixaxis, it will be in the github of retropie. Then connect to your wifi (you can hookup a USB keyboard to make it easier to navigate.)

Once you are connected to wifi, go to a computer on your wifi network and go to \\retropie in file manager. You can find roms on the internet, some places have whole libraries. I won't post those places here, you have to find those. Just drag and drop the roms into the correct folders in \\retropie.

Then refresh the libraries on the retropie or restart it and you are good to go.

Side note: if you figure all this out, you can put Kodi on it in the optional packages. I am not doing a tutorial for that. The sources are getting annoying to find good ones. This is a nice way to get a really decent retro gaming system, plus a Kodi box.

This post was edited on 6/27/17 at 6:38 am
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
53788 posts
Posted on 6/27/17 at 7:02 am to
Bookmarked

Posted by GeauxAggie972
Poterbin Residence
Member since Aug 2009
29534 posts
Posted on 6/27/17 at 7:06 am to
Here's a thread I started back when the NES Classic was announced on this same thing:

Raspberry Pi

I'm far from the most tech savvy type of guy and I was able to do it with ease. Any controller that uses a USB output (PS3, PS4, etc.) works
Posted by musick
the internet
Member since Dec 2008
26131 posts
Posted on 6/27/17 at 7:34 am to
can someone with a Retro Pi setup tell me how far it can go as far as emulation?

I have an old OUYA I use that can emulate dreamcast, n64, and PSX if a Pi can do that I may set one up.

All that said I just wish Nintendo would get the VC going instead of doing all this classic shite. The SNES is cool and all for nostalgia but I really want some n64,GC, and Wii games on my switch. Would be awesome.
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
16556 posts
Posted on 6/27/17 at 7:39 am to
N64 and PS1 is where it meets its limitation. Some games work ok without overclocking, others just don't work well without overclocking and making some changes. If you want good reliable N64 and PS1 emulation, look elsewhere.
This post was edited on 6/27/17 at 7:40 am
Posted by GeauxAggie972
Poterbin Residence
Member since Aug 2009
29534 posts
Posted on 6/27/17 at 7:55 am to
I've had no issues with the PS1. The only problem with them is since they were disc games, they take up a lot more space than any of the other systems, especially multi-disc games like your Final Fantasys.

N64 is hit or miss game wise on the Pi. I'm with you though. Never owned a Gamecube or Wii, so just getting the VC going for the Switch is all I need for that avenue
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