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Posted on 5/16/22 at 6:39 pm to
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 5/16/22 at 6:39 pm to
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I’ve built 8 pcs in my life so far and I’ve done something stupid in building each one of them at various points

Your spec list is excellent btw.


You're ahead of me by number, but I feel like I might trump you in singular part stupidity:

First build: spent an hour troubleshooting what I thought was a dead gpu (rgb would light up, no post) before realizing that the +2 in a 6+2 PCIe wasn't fully plugged in.

First gpu upgrade: Spent another hour troubleshooting what I thought was a dead gpu (no post). Turns out, while installing my gpu, I must have ever-so-fricking-slightly bumped the trigger on the pcie slot, which nudged my riser (vertical gpu) ever so slightly out of the slot, enough to lose contact, but not enough to actually be noticeably out of the slot, or fall out.

I felt like a motherfricking moron
Posted by Milesahead
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Posted on 5/19/22 at 8:13 am to
Just curious, what is the going rate for higher end gaming PCs now? Not necessarily top end on everything but something that will efficiently play all games for the next 3-5 years?
Wasn't/Isn't there a chip shortage? I thought prices were astronomical right now...
Posted by Joshjrn
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 5/19/22 at 8:40 am to
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Just curious, what is the going rate for higher end gaming PCs now? Not necessarily top end on everything but something that will efficiently play all games for the next 3-5 years?


That's tough to answer without knowing what you play, at what resolution, and at what refresh rate.

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Wasn't/Isn't there a chip shortage? I thought prices were astronomical right now...


CPU shortage is gone. GPU shortage is astronomically better than it used to be. While you can't buy whatever gpu you want whenever you want, restocks are happening pretty much constantly. You can absolutely build DIY right now without too much heartache.
Posted by Milesahead
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Posted on 5/19/22 at 8:51 am to
Used to play first person shooter games on PC...so high resolution and frame rates.
Posted by bamabenny
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 5/19/22 at 9:40 am to
Take this with a grain of salt since it's a lot more about luck than anything these days, but I built my 3080/5600x PC from scratch over the course of 6 months for about $1500.

Depends how quickly you want everything, how hard you try for MSRP GPUs, etc.

I also bought and sold a few GPUs while building it, so my total out of pocket cost was really like $700
This post was edited on 5/19/22 at 9:41 am
Posted by Joshjrn
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 5/19/22 at 9:41 am to
Most people who play fps competitively don’t play high resolution. They generally stick to 1080p, or 1440p at the high end. What do you mean by high resolution? 1440p? 4k?
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 5/19/22 at 9:47 am to
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Just curious, what is the going rate for higher end gaming PCs now? Not necessarily top end on everything but something that will efficiently play all games for the next 3-5 years?
Wasn't/Isn't there a chip shortage? I thought prices were astronomical right now...


$1500 for a medium-to-high-end-ish 1440p build.
Posted by Milesahead
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Posted on 5/19/22 at 10:06 am to
I am prob good with 1080p. Nothing lower than that.
Posted by Joshjrn
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 5/19/22 at 10:44 am to
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I am prob good with 1080p. Nothing lower than that.


1080p is pretty much the floor these days.

(Relatively) High refresh 1080p gaming that will hold up for a few years can be pretty comfortably done for about $1,250 right now.
Posted by HeadyMurphey
Los Santos
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 5/31/22 at 7:58 am to
Just checking back in. I bought some of the items and saved the CPU and Video card for last. The prices have dropped over $200 for the whole system in that time period, so that is nice.

Everything so far is built. Ordered the CPU and GPU yesterday so should be getting those this week. A few questions:

1. Will I need any thermal glue for the CPU or the cooler just sits on top?

2. Where do I get a cheaper Windows license?

3. I see the motherboard is not WiFi capable. Understanding that hard wire is preferred, can you recommend a WiFi card in the event that location of the PC makes hard wiring problematic?
This post was edited on 5/31/22 at 7:59 am
Posted by Joshjrn
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 5/31/22 at 8:23 am to
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1. Will I need any thermal glue for the CPU or the cooler just sits on top?


Your stock cooler will likely come with thermal paste/compound preapplied, but if not, just get something like this: LINK

Eta: you 100% need thermal compound, whether pre applied or aftermarket. Machining imperfections create too many air pockets between your cooler and your cpu. Even on low wattage parts, thermal compound is necessary.

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2. Where do I get a cheaper Windows license?


If you have an old laptop sitting around, you can probably use the one written on the sticker on the bottom. If not, I would use kinguin.net. But different people have different feelings on those grey market sites.

Eta: if you need help creating windows installation media, just let us know.

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3. I see the motherboard is not WiFi capable. Understanding that hard wire is preferred, can you recommend a WiFi card in the event that location of the PC makes hard wiring problematic?


You don't need to push enough bandwidth to make a card necessary. I would just use a usb dongle like one of these: LINK
This post was edited on 5/31/22 at 9:20 am
Posted by HeadyMurphey
Los Santos
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 6/4/22 at 4:02 pm to
Help. This cpu cooler is a pain in the arse. I can get the two screws on one side to go through the board and twist and lock, but not the other side. It's like the twist screws aren't quite long enough
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
54310 posts
Posted on 6/4/22 at 4:21 pm to
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Help. This cpu cooler is a pain in the arse. I can get the two screws on one side to go through the board and twist and lock, but not the other side. It's like the twist screws aren't quite long enough


You're using the stock cooler right? Unless Intel has changed them with 12 gen, the 4 plastic screws should just turn and snap into place. You shouldn't have to use much force at all.

You need to check the initial screw positioning before you turn them.
Posted by HeadyMurphey
Los Santos
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 6/4/22 at 4:52 pm to
Stock cooler, yes. Two go in easy, the other two don't. It is slightly tilted, not much though
Posted by HeadyMurphey
Los Santos
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 6/4/22 at 4:53 pm to
These are push, snap in, then twist to lock
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
31676 posts
Posted on 6/4/22 at 10:03 pm to
I’ve never installed an Intel cpu, so I’ll definitely defer to others on that. But I’m hanging out if you run into other issues
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
54310 posts
Posted on 6/4/22 at 10:35 pm to
How did you install them? Diagonal or one side?

You might need to post some pictures
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