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re: PC Discussion - Gaming, Performance and Enthusiasts

Posted on 6/8/13 at 1:31 am to
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
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Posted on 6/8/13 at 1:31 am to
Nope, didn't know that. I'd read very little about delidding because I had no need to do it with my SB, and I haven't used EK blocks. That's interesting... I void warranties frequently, but usually in an easily reversible way.
Posted by Mr Gardoki
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Posted on 6/8/13 at 12:20 pm to
I am still considering getting that sapphire 7870 ghz to crossfire with the one I already have. I have an asrock extreme 4 mobo so does that mean my pcie lanes with not be x16 and instead work as x8 with crossfire? Or do those cards not use that feature yet anyway?
Posted by bluebarracuda
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Posted on 6/8/13 at 12:40 pm to
Its limited by your processors, but some mobos have chips that artificially make x16/16.

On your extreme4 your probably x8/8
Posted by Mr Gardoki
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Posted on 6/8/13 at 12:52 pm to
Is that enough reason not to crossfire?
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
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Posted on 6/8/13 at 12:53 pm to
Yeah, it will be x8/x8 without the PLX chip. You will not notice a difference between that and x16/x16.
Posted by LSU Coyote
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Posted on 6/8/13 at 1:05 pm to
What?

Those 7870s won't use full x16 lanes. TBH he won't notice a difference one would think.

ETA:
Let me restate.. "won't take full advantage"
This post was edited on 6/8/13 at 1:07 pm
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 6/8/13 at 1:06 pm to
That's what I said.


Edit: my "yeah" didn't mean "don't crossfire." I didn't notice his post above mine. Of course you can crossfire. I'm running fricking PCIe 2.0 x8/x8 and I'm crossfiring two 7970s. As far as I know, no card on the market can saturate x16, let alone x8. Unless, the Titans can?
This post was edited on 6/8/13 at 1:09 pm
Posted by LSU Coyote
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Posted on 6/8/13 at 1:07 pm to
shite you're right.. I read right over that.
Posted by Mr Gardoki
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Posted on 6/8/13 at 1:07 pm to
Doing some further research it appears correct that I wouldn't notice a difference if any. Apparently there is about a 2% difference with pcie 2.0 but none at 3.0
Posted by LSU Coyote
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Posted on 6/8/13 at 1:10 pm to
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Doing some further research it appears correct that I wouldn't notice a difference if any. Apparently there is about a 2% difference with pcie 2.0 but none at 3.0

Nothing really takes advantage of 3.0 yet in everyday gaming. It shows up on benchmarks but that is it. Only in the extreme side of the spectrum and 3/4 way setups.
Posted by Mr Gardoki
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Posted on 6/8/13 at 1:12 pm to
That's what I found. I'm still debating though. I could always get this card cheap later as prices go down, I don't really need crossfire for anything right now.
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
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Posted on 6/8/13 at 1:13 pm to
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Nothing really takes advantage of 3.0 yet in everyday gaming. It shows up on benchmarks but that is it. Only in the extreme side of the spectrum and 3/4 way setups.


On that topic, I had edited my previous post to ask you whether any of your dual GPU cards had noticeable gains/losses between 2.0 and 3.0 or x16/x16 and x8/x8. Or have you tested it? I'm sure you have a PCIe 2.0 board to test your titans.
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 6/8/13 at 1:14 pm to
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That's what I found. I'm still debating though. I could always get this card cheap later as prices go down, I don't really need crossfire for anything right now.


Aren't you going 1440p?
Posted by LSU Coyote
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Posted on 6/8/13 at 1:14 pm to
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I'm running fricking PCIe 2.0 x8/x8 and I'm crossfiring two 7970s. As far as I know, no card on the market can saturate x16, let alone x8. Unless, the Titans can?

IDK.. Titans, 780s and 7990s might take benefit on x16. I know it reflects on benches. Just seen ppl run SB-E before and after the custom BIOS to unlock x16 lanes.. makes a difference there.
Posted by LSU Coyote
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Posted on 6/8/13 at 1:16 pm to
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On that topic, I had edited my previous post to ask you whether any of your dual GPU cards had noticeable gains/losses between 2.0 and 3.0 or x16/x16 and x8/x8. Or have you tested it? I'm sure you have a PCIe 2.0 board to test your titans.

I could do that.. but they are already blocked and watercooled. Refer to my answer above this one.. that will answer your question without us even testing! lol
Posted by Mr Gardoki
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Posted on 6/8/13 at 1:19 pm to
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Aren't you going 1440p?

Not yet, probably eventually. I just started gaming at 1080 in march so I am enjoying that.
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 6/8/13 at 1:20 pm to
I need a new mouse..

Currently have a Razer Mamba but it is starting to wear. I have been waiting for the Ouroboros from Razer for what, 6months?

LINK

Doesn't seem like it will come anytime soon. Currently waiting on the Ducky Shine III to sale for a new keyboard but at a lost on mice. There really isn't much out there with the option of wireless and wired.

Any suggestions?
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 6/8/13 at 1:21 pm to
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Not yet, probably eventually. I just started gaming at 1080 in march so I am enjoying that.

Okay, we will tell you how awesome 4K is next year!
Posted by Mr Gardoki
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Posted on 6/8/13 at 1:23 pm to
On that note I did see a 4k tv this past week in Vegas. It was cool but not worth the price yet. With a pc that may be different. It made a huge difference with text.
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 6/8/13 at 1:24 pm to
quote:

On that note I did see a 4k tv this past week in Vegas. It was cool but not worth the price yet. With a pc that may be different. It made a huge difference with text.

Yeah TVs I don't really care because the content wont be there. With monitors, pretty excited.
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