re: Official League of Legends Thread

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And when he dies they say "This is going to be a big push with Rift as Bjerg is most of their damage". He has almost 100 more cs than Zven at 20 minutes. If he dies, they lose. He died, they lost a shite load for it, including the game.

All 3 lanes won for TSM too another point they mention.

The only player worse than Bjerg on TSM is Mithy.

The 3 for 2 bot at 17? Nah.

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I still think that if TSM resets right before they start baron the game may have had a different outcome. They just won a team fight, tried to rush baron and ended up with just one person with it. If you reset there and fight at baron you have a much better shot, IMO.

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Probably, was a bad baron call.

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Saying Bjerg is TSMs problem is pretty silly though.

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How? They've swapped and changed out every other aspect except him over the years. He is the one constant. He is statistically nowhere near what he used to be.

How many other players/coaches can you change out and still not have international results and now even domestic results before you finally move on from him?

If you blow it up in 2 months, he has to be included.

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against a team that's won 4 games in a row on it.

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I mean 100T looked god awful at RR against it, and have made multiple rosters changes in the last 2 weeks alone. Was AnDa's first start as well wasn't it?

Idk man, just seems like a LOT of excuses for him because TSM fans love him more than anything else.

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If you blow it up in 2 months, he has to be included.

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Who you want them to sign? Goldenglue?

Common man, I know you have something against the guy, but who would you rather them put in mid lane?

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I mean 100T looked god awful at RR against it, and have made multiple rosters changes in the last 2 weeks alone. Was AnDa's first start as well wasn't it?

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TSM hasn't played it at all. 100T got live reps against it at rift rivals against the region that does it best. You don't think they were a little more prepared to play against it? Xayah is also a clear comfort pick for Cody.

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Everyone knows he should have been on that team in RR. He's arguably their best player.

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AnDa

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He had a hell of a game, but it's not the hardest job to be a funnel support.

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Have nothing against him, as a non-TSM fan I don't just suck him off and make up tons of excuses when he plays poorly.

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That's funny, because even when TSM wins and he plays well, you never have anything positive to say about him. I haven't been on this board long but I don't think you've ever said anything good about him.

I'm a big Bjerg fan, and I'll tell you he has played poorly a lot this split. I'm an Anivia main and his Anivia game a few weeks ago was cringe. This game wasn't good either but it was his first tunnel game.

It's more or less giving him some slack than making excuses.

The whole team has all looked bad at some point this split. It's just not coming together. That team last year was pretty damn good for NA standards, and it's a shame that it's not the same team this year.

Right, I'm just saying in terms of playing against it at RR as you said, those 2 guys didn't.

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That's funny, because even when TSM wins and he plays well, you never have anything positive to say about him. I haven't been on this board long but I don't think you've ever said anything good about him.

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I usually don't need to, the TSM fans do plenty of that.

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The whole team has all looked bad at some point this split. It's just not coming together. That team last year was pretty damn good for NA standards, and it's a shame that it's not the same team this year.

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Right, so 6th place Spring Split, and looking like the same give or take a few meaningless spot here in Summer Split, and no Worlds, what is TSM going to do? You have to blow it up completely, all of the moves made were flat out bad this offseason. Really really bad.

Mithy is just awful, and if he is a package deal with Zven then goodbye to both. Jungle is well, anyone at this point. Coaching staff has already seen a change so clean house there.

If I was keeping someone it would be Hauntzer.

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I just find it crazy that you would keep Hauntzer and want to ship off Bjerg. Hauntzer hasn't looked any better than Bjerg this split IMO.

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Top lane is easier imo, than say mid, lot less pressure. Lot of just being thrown on a tank on an island. If you have a solid player and you don't have to import that role, then don't. He still ranks top 5 right now statistically.

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I think you keep Hauntzer, Bjerg, and Zven. I would push for Dardoch and Smoothie. Hell, I would take Biofrost back but with CLG starting to gel I don't think that's an option (I wouldn't want to go back when they replaced you anyway)

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Possibly. I would import in that scenario, either let Zven pick his support especially if he can bring over a top EU support that he knows and would be comfortable with.

Or you finally import a solid jungler instead of trying to develop these NA guys which has not worked repeatedly now and should not be an option.

And yeah Bio wouldn't come back I'm sure, plus as you said CLG is starting to gel and he actually ranks as the #1 support in NA right now.

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Yea, and that's what really kills me about the roster moves last year. Biofrost really turned the corner last half of spring split. He was the main reason CLG almost made playoffs. He's grown a lot.

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Yeah, if TSM didn't get caught up in making changes for the sake of making changes the same roster back this year would be crazy good.

Even keeping Svenskeren would have been okay, he's still been pretty solid for a bad C9 lineup.

Pretty painful to see other orgs go with the strategy of developing players for the long haul and sticking with English speakers etc, and if TSM had just done the same they'd likely be tops in NA still and potentially scary good.