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Posted on 7/14/18 at 9:05 pm to UltimateHog
So Taliyah isnt considered an early game champion who makes her impact off her early game roams? And Xayah isnt considered a late game monster?
Posted on 7/14/18 at 9:07 pm to Greace
So Bjerg didn't get caught at 19:30 and deleted resulting in losing BOTH mid lane tier 1 tower and tier 2 tower and TSM's lead going from 1K to being down nearly 2K and game over?
Like I said, game was over when Bjerg got caught. Period. Learn the game bud.
Like I said, game was over when Bjerg got caught. Period. Learn the game bud.
Posted on 7/14/18 at 9:08 pm to UltimateHog
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So Taliyah isnt considered an early game champion who makes her impact off her early game roams? And Xayah isnt considered a late game monster?
Answer the question.
Posted on 7/14/18 at 9:10 pm to Greace
Read what you replied to.
Posted on 7/14/18 at 9:13 pm to UltimateHog
So the fact that they failed to snowball and lost rift herald and 2 people at 16 minutes and then lost a bot fight in the next minute had nothing to do with it? It was all Bjergsen dying 3 minutes later after they were already behind against a late game monster team with no ADC? 
Posted on 7/14/18 at 9:14 pm to Greace
Yes.
TSM had a gold lead still and 2 towers to zero with map pressure.
Bjerg gets deleted off to the side, and game is over as it results in 2 towers and now they are down nearly 2K gold at 20 minutes with no map pressure. Game over.
Just like the casters said "He is all of their damage this is going to be a big push with Rift". Yep, your funnel player can't die at 20 minutes off to the side.
TSM had a gold lead still and 2 towers to zero with map pressure.
Bjerg gets deleted off to the side, and game is over as it results in 2 towers and now they are down nearly 2K gold at 20 minutes with no map pressure. Game over.
Just like the casters said "He is all of their damage this is going to be a big push with Rift". Yep, your funnel player can't die at 20 minutes off to the side.
This post was edited on 7/14/18 at 9:15 pm
Posted on 7/14/18 at 9:17 pm to UltimateHog
They had no map pressure after they lost the bot fight. They are now behind on a scaling team with a team that doesnt really scale all that well. Just because the gold says that TSM has a 700g lead at 19 minute doesnt truly mean anything when the other team has a Xayah with 2 kills and a Mundo with 2 kills who are going to be basically unkillable for TSMs comp.
Posted on 7/14/18 at 9:17 pm to Greace
They were not behind, they were ahead when Bjerg got caught. And yes, they had the map pressure 2 towers to zero.
Funny enough the analysts loved TSM's comp. But it's the comps fault right? Never Bjerg!
Funny enough the analysts loved TSM's comp. But it's the comps fault right? Never Bjerg!
This post was edited on 7/14/18 at 9:18 pm
Posted on 7/14/18 at 9:21 pm to UltimateHog
I never said the comp was bad 
. I said they played it incorrectly. Its an early game comp that you funnel the taliyah to get ahead and you roam with her and ali and get the rest of the team ahead and the map pressure. One of Tsm's big weaknesses has always been taking early game advantages WHICH IS EXACTLY what this comp is suppose to do and what they failed to do. They are down in kills at the moment before bjergsen gets caught. They are not suppose to be down in kills at this time if this comp is being played correctly.
. I said they played it incorrectly. Its an early game comp that you funnel the taliyah to get ahead and you roam with her and ali and get the rest of the team ahead and the map pressure. One of Tsm's big weaknesses has always been taking early game advantages WHICH IS EXACTLY what this comp is suppose to do and what they failed to do. They are down in kills at the moment before bjergsen gets caught. They are not suppose to be down in kills at this time if this comp is being played correctly.
Posted on 7/14/18 at 9:22 pm to Greace
They played it bad because Bjerg continues to be meh?
How many excuses can TSM fans come up with to defend Bjerg after TSM losses?
News flash, he is TSM's problem.
How many excuses can TSM fans come up with to defend Bjerg after TSM losses?
News flash, he is TSM's problem.
Posted on 7/14/18 at 9:22 pm to UltimateHog
Just because you have towers doesnt mean you have map pressure. They had map pressure and then they lost the fight bot lane and then had no pressure on the map because 100T reset all the waves.
Posted on 7/14/18 at 9:24 pm to UltimateHog
How am I defending them? I said they played the comp bad. I said the reason that they lost is because they didnt know what to do with the funneled taliyah. But continue to make up whatever narrative you think fits you.
Posted on 7/14/18 at 9:25 pm to Greace
By getting incredibly defensive any time someone cuts Bjerg?
We get it, you love him and he's your favorite player for many years.
He's still not playing very well, and is the constant amid all of TSM's struggles and changes.
We get it, you love him and he's your favorite player for many years.
He's still not playing very well, and is the constant amid all of TSM's struggles and changes.
Posted on 7/14/18 at 9:27 pm to Greace
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they didnt know what to do with the funneled taliyah
What exactly are they supposed to do when Taliyah runs down mid then off to the side and gets deleted at 20 minutes resulting in losing 2 towers and the gold lead and all pressure?
Posted on 7/14/18 at 9:27 pm to UltimateHog
You do know that TSM was attempting to make a play when bjergsen died right? He didnt die alone by himself at the other teams blue buff or something. He literally died next to 2 of his teammates. Because they were behind from what happened in the prior 5 minutes before that.
This post was edited on 7/14/18 at 9:29 pm
Posted on 7/14/18 at 9:28 pm to Greace
They ran down mid then off to the side and he got picked since ya know, funnel makes you the only target.
Posted on 7/14/18 at 9:33 pm to UltimateHog
Except that was one of the things that they prided about TSM's comp was that he wasnt the only damage threat.
Posted on 7/14/18 at 9:34 pm to Greace
Not what the casters said. 
Posted on 7/14/18 at 9:36 pm to UltimateHog
Continue to paint your own narrative bud. Its okay if you want to live in your own little safe space where you are always right.
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