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Posted on 2/11/22 at 4:49 pm to
Posted by Blitzed
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Posted on 2/11/22 at 4:49 pm to
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And? The content is still relevant and active.


And it’s been relevant and active with skips and boost this whole time?.....

Your point is?
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
62406 posts
Posted on 2/11/22 at 4:49 pm to
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Lol you are not avoiding the game. You are avoiding certain parts of the game.
Holy shite the gymnastics.

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While we don’t know the answers to those questions..we do know....it’s doesn’t impact you or the overall quality of the game.
You're just wrong here. Thrusting new players from lower levels to higher levels disturbs the balance of player allocation throughout world content. FF has safeguards for this in some areas, but we're talking about boosts as a whole in MMOs. Boosts killed leveling in WoW. Absolutely murdered it. You are living under a rock if you think boosting does nothing to the health of an MMO's ecosystem.

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You are mad people aren’t playing the game you how you want it to be played. You were the worst kind of kid in the neighborhood.
I'm not mad at all. Just cutting the bullshite of people like you who act all virtuous when you paid extra because you're too lazy to do what the rest of us do. There's no other reason to boost in Final Fantasy other than refusal to commit the time for the rewards you want.
Posted by Mystery
Member since Jan 2009
9064 posts
Posted on 2/11/22 at 4:50 pm to
No, it does not. lol

Tales of adventure III launched with Endwalker. Before it came out ToA II only got you to 70.

Edit: the entire point of it is to catch people up that want to play the expansion. Not to get to max level.
This post was edited on 2/11/22 at 4:52 pm
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
62406 posts
Posted on 2/11/22 at 4:53 pm to
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the entire point of it is to catch people up that want to play the expansion. Not to get to max level.
Then why do they sell level boosts and story boosts separately?

God y'all have swallowed the corporate dick straight to the balls.
Posted by Blitzed
Member since Oct 2009
21770 posts
Posted on 2/11/22 at 4:54 pm to
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You're just wrong here. Thrusting new players from lower levels to higher levels disturbs the balance of player allocation throughout world content. FF has safeguards for this in some areas, but we're talking about boosts as a whole in MMOs. Boosts killed leveling in WoW. Absolutely murdered it. You are living under a rock if you think boosting does nothing to the health of an MMO's ecosystem.



I was talking about FF specifically. I don’t play WoW. FF is proof it can exist and work. None of what you are complaining about changes FF.

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I'm not mad at all. Just cutting the bullshite of people like you who act all virtuous when you paid extra because you're too lazy to do what the rest of us do. There's no other reason to boost in Final Fantasy other than refusal to commit the time for the rewards you want.


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Just cutting the bullshite of people like you who act all virtuous


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people like you who act all virtuous


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who act all virtuous


Lmao thanks for the laugh. Enjoy the rest of your weekend. Hope no sorry skippers or boosties ruin your time in FF.
Posted by Mystery
Member since Jan 2009
9064 posts
Posted on 2/11/22 at 4:55 pm to
LINK

If you want proof here you go.

And once again I don't really care how you feel about it. I am okay with you thinking it's the worst.

Just correcting you on saying incorrect things again.

Have a good day.
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
62406 posts
Posted on 2/11/22 at 4:57 pm to
Well we certainly found out who was pathetic enough to boost in Final Fantasy.
Posted by Mystery
Member since Jan 2009
9064 posts
Posted on 2/11/22 at 4:58 pm to
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Then why do they sell level boosts and story boosts separately?


The story boost will also only get you to the current expansion you want to play. and will not get you to endgame. Just the start of the current expansion.


I do not like them charging for that. I am just stating the facts.
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
62406 posts
Posted on 2/11/22 at 4:59 pm to
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I was talking about FF specifically. I don’t play WoW. FF is proof it can exist and work. None of what you are complaining about changes FF.
FF is a unicorn. There isn't another MMO like it. However, it's not the only MMO with boosts. Not even close. Just because FF can mitigate the harm boosting does doesn't mean it should just be an acceptable practice across the board because it's harmful in literally every other MMO it exists within.
Posted by Mystery
Member since Jan 2009
9064 posts
Posted on 2/11/22 at 5:00 pm to
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Well we certainly found out who was pathetic enough to boost in Final Fantasy.


You sure do talk out of your arse a ton. I have never boosted. I don't even agree with PTW or pay to skip if you want to call it that if you followed along better in this thread. I pretty much kicked off the rant and was on your side.

Just when I see somebody stating things as facts that he has no idea about it is funny to me.
This post was edited on 2/11/22 at 5:01 pm
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
62406 posts
Posted on 2/11/22 at 5:00 pm to
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The story boost will also only get you to the current expansion you want to play. and will not get you to endgame. Just the start of the current expansion.


I do not like them charging for that. I am just stating the facts.
So am I. If it's not about getting to max level and is about getting you to the current story, why do they sell the level boosts separate from the story boosts?
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
62406 posts
Posted on 2/11/22 at 5:02 pm to
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Just when I see somebody stating things as facts that he has no idea about it is funny to me.
Nerdily passively aggressive after being outed as a lazy booster lmao
Posted by Mystery
Member since Jan 2009
9064 posts
Posted on 2/11/22 at 5:05 pm to
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So am I. If it's not about getting to max level and is about getting you to the current story, why do they sell the level boosts separate from the story boosts?


I'm not arguing with you about the reasoning or predatory nature of it.

I was just correcting you on what you said. You cannot get to max level or max story point. It is always to the latest expansions start.

This post was edited on 2/11/22 at 5:06 pm
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
62406 posts
Posted on 2/11/22 at 5:06 pm to
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I was just correcting you on what you said. You cannot get to max level or max story point. It is always to the latest expansions start.

Grats on spending an hour lamenting over an intended exaggeration. You really went places in this convo.
Posted by Blitzed
Member since Oct 2009
21770 posts
Posted on 2/11/22 at 5:09 pm to
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So am I. If it's not about getting to max level and is about getting you to the current story, why do they sell the level boosts separate from the story boosts?



I created a new toon so that I could go back and play the story that I skipped. I did not buy a story skip. I bought a lvl boost to 70 which was 10 less than the max at the time.

Why did I buy the lvl boost? Well because I wanted to play through the story as quick as possible. So I could solo Que dungeons that I have run hundreds of times and the get back on my main to play endwalker. It was my fault for skipping story.

Square gave me the ability to make my process quicker and I’m thankful for it. I’m the dumbass that skipped cutscenes on my main. They are the smart asses that profited from it.

Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
62406 posts
Posted on 2/11/22 at 5:09 pm to
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I'm not arguing with you about the reasoning or predatory nature of it.
the entire point of it is to catch people up that want to play the expansion. Not to get to max level.
You kinda are.
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
62406 posts
Posted on 2/11/22 at 5:15 pm to
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Why did I buy the lvl boost?
I'm not really here to hunt for the justification of boosts. If someone buys a boost, I don't care within FF specifically because they've structured rewards to mitigate the effects of lost low level players. In other MMOs I care much more because those defenses aren't in place and it just destroys the leveling experience.

The whole point of this at the beginning was the framing of time-savers like boosts not being a "pay2win" feature in MMOs when it undoubtedly is. There's just no rationalizing that away.
Posted by Blitzed
Member since Oct 2009
21770 posts
Posted on 2/11/22 at 5:51 pm to
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The whole point of this at the beginning was the framing of time-savers like boosts not being a "pay2win" feature in MMOs when it undoubtedly is. There's just no rationalizing that away.


Well I asked you originally why you didn’t like the story skip and boost in Final Fantasy.

I cant vouch for what Lost ark does and doesn’t offer.

My point was that you can have both in games and it be okay. Using FF as that example and model for other MMO’s.

But again more than anything it’s the monthly sub that allows the game to thrive. It’s more than that obviously but to avoid the problems F2P have a month sub is vital.
This post was edited on 2/11/22 at 5:53 pm
Posted by Blitzed
Member since Oct 2009
21770 posts
Posted on 2/11/22 at 6:11 pm to
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God y'all have swallowed the corporate dick straight to the balls.


What phone or computer did you post this on? What keyboard did you use? What make is your car? Where do you shop?
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
62406 posts
Posted on 2/11/22 at 6:22 pm to
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What phone or computer did you post this on? What keyboard did you use? What make is your car? Where do you shop?
Did you just equate tools you need to exist in the modern day to the gullible acceptance of corporate excuses for skipping levels in a video game?
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