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re: Halo 3 guys...

Posted on 10/21/08 at 5:34 pm to
Posted by jheine2
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Posted on 10/21/08 at 5:34 pm to
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The BR just requires a little bit more skill.


Dumb... The BR has a 3 shot burst so even if you miss you can still sweep the retical over the enemies head and get a couple bullets in. If you miss a shot with the Pistol, there is no sweeping so you just miss.

Pistol takes way more talent.
Posted by GeauxWarrior12
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Posted on 10/22/08 at 12:37 pm to
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b/c its a 3 shot kill.. whats the point in even looking for a diff weapon when u already have the 2nd most powerful weapon in the game as soon as you spawn...


I will bet 100 dollars right now I could give you 10 tries and you could not one time 3 shot me. Its very difficult to get a 3 shot you moron.

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The BR just requires a little bit more skill.

The pistol was overpowered.


Considering the BR in both Halo 2 and 3 have WAY more auto aim and magnetism than the CE Pistol I'm pretty sure the Pistol takes more skill. The Pistol was not overpowered. A shotty at close range could take it out. A plasma rifle at close range had an advantage. A rocket at shot to medium range could take it out. A sniper at long range certainly could take it out. Halo CE was about true skill which is aim and teamwork. It wasn't about controlling power weapons and camping like 2 and 3.
This post was edited on 10/22/08 at 12:39 pm
Posted by MrFreakinMiyagi
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Posted on 10/22/08 at 2:37 pm to
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Its very difficult to get a 3 shot you moron.

But it's easy to get a four shot with the BR?
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A shotty at close range could take it out. A plasma rifle at close range had an advantage. A rocket at shot to medium range could take it out. A sniper at long range certainly could take it out. Halo CE was about true skill which is aim and teamwork. It wasn't about controlling power weapons and camping like 2 and 3.


So, let's see here.....

You spout off about the pistol not being overpowered, and how power weapons> the pistol. Then you tell us about how H1 takes (what you consider) "true skill", while H2 and H3 are all about controlling the power weapons. Nice......

It's a wash, IMO. The best Halo 2/3 players are those that are good with the BR, just as the best Halo:CE players were those that were good with the pistol. The BR has basically replaced the pistol as a solid (often default) weapon any skilled player will be able to use, and hold their own against the vast majority of the competition, in most situations.



Posted by GeauxWarrior12
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Posted on 10/22/08 at 3:38 pm to
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So, let's see here.....

You spout off about the pistol not being overpowered, and how power weapons> the pistol. Then you tell us about how H1 takes (what you consider) "true skill", while H2 and H3 are all about controlling the power weapons. Nice......


The whole point of me doing that was to disprove that the Pistol is overpowered. What you fail to realize is that in every single of those situations a skilled pistol can win. For example: In Halo 2 or 3 if a shotty gets within 10 feet of you and you have a BR your screwed. IN CE you could pistol your way out it. Get it moron???
This post was edited on 10/22/08 at 3:42 pm
Posted by GeauxWarrior12
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Posted on 10/22/08 at 3:42 pm to
Also

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But it's easy to get a four shot with the BR?


Much easier than the Pistol TSK
Posted by SprintFun
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 10/22/08 at 3:45 pm to
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The whole point of me doing that was to disprove that the Pistol is overpowered. What you fail to realize is that in every single of those situations a skilled pistol can win. For example: In Halo 2 or 3 if a shotty gets within 10 feet of you and you have a BR your screwed. IN CE you could pistol your way out it. Get it moron???


Too bad a shotty never kills a BR, or a rocket never kills a BR, or a sniper never kills a BR.

In the same breath you say that Halo 2/3 are all about the BR but say its all about controlling the power weapons...what are you arguing against again?
Posted by GeauxWarrior12
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Posted on 10/22/08 at 3:49 pm to
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In the same breath you say that Halo 2/3 are all about the BR but say its all about controlling the power weapons...what are you arguing against again?


Please show me where I said Halo2/3 were all about the BR????
Posted by SprintFun
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 10/22/08 at 3:51 pm to
You're right, had you mixed up with somebody else. Sorry.
Posted by GeauxWarrior12
Hammond
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Posted on 10/22/08 at 3:53 pm to
No problem
Posted by jheine2
lafayette
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 10/22/08 at 6:05 pm to
Halo 1 was about controling the power-ups because they were on a constant respawn every 2 minutes I think and were much more important than in Halo 2 and 3. This made the game have more strategy because you had to be at the powerups when they were respawning or you were screwed. therefore you couldn't camp in halo 1 like halo 2 and 3.

Also, as said before the halo pistol required much more skill because of less auto-aim and only 1 shot vs 3 shot burst. anyone who denies this either hasn't played Halo 1 or just sucked at it because they didn't have enough skill with the Pistol.
Posted by SprintFun
Columbus, OH
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 10/22/08 at 9:09 pm to
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Halo 1 was about controling the power-ups because they were on a constant respawn every 2 minutes I think


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therefore you couldn't camp in halo 1 like halo 2 and 3.


What?

Invis + Rockets + Sniper, etc., are on a constant respawn timer from when they're grabbed...so I'm not sure what you're arguing?
Posted by Bread Orgeron
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Posted on 10/23/08 at 1:47 am to
You all would fit in very nicely here.

You can spend all day arguing about Halo 2 BR vs. Halo 3 BR vs. CE Pistol or whatever.

Bungie (developer of Halo) has stated on many occasions they do not intend to change the pistol or battle rifle. The way it is in Halo 3 is the way it will be in Halo 3: Recon. And that's the way it should be.

The pistol in CE had a scope. There really is no skill required to kill someone with that considering the power of it. The Halo 3 dual-wielded pistol is actually pretty powerful and balanced.

Everyone in the Halo community agrees the Halo 2 battle rifle was the most powerful weapon ever. THAT'S boring. That takes no skill. The Halo 3 battle rifle is a weapon that takes practice and skill. And if you disagree with me, see how far you can level up in Team Swat. It's not that easy. But the battle rifle, if you can use it right, can be the best mid to long range AND close range weapon (Grenade + BR > AR).

Halo 3: Recon is not Bungie's next project simply because they believed that Halo 3 was criticized (because it wasn't), but because they believe there is a whole lot more of the story to tell, but through the eyes of someone besides Master Chief. The game will use the same engine as Halo 3, just adding more campaign levels and some new weapons.
Posted by MrFreakinMiyagi
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Posted on 10/23/08 at 11:38 am to
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The whole point of me doing that was to disprove that the Pistol is overpowered.

No shite. Too bad you didn't do it without contradicting yourself.
Posted by GeauxWarrior12
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 10/23/08 at 11:49 am to
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Everyone in the Halo community agrees the Halo 2 battle rifle was the most powerful weapon ever.


No they don't. Everyone agrees it was the gun that took the least amount of skill compared to the Pistol and the BR. The Pistol by far took the most skill to shoot. Everybody says "IT had a scope" or "It only took 3 shots", but it is not easy at all to get a TSK against players that know how to strafe and duck correctly.

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No shite. Too bad you didn't do it without contradicting yourself.


Please show me how I did this. Your understanding of the English language is suspect if you think I did.
This post was edited on 10/23/08 at 11:55 am
Posted by GeauxWarrior12
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 10/23/08 at 11:54 am to
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Invis + Rockets + Sniper, etc., are on a constant respawn timer from when they're grabbed...so I'm not sure what you're arguing?


He's saying since they were on a constant respawn timer meaning that every minute or 2(depending on the powerup or weapon) a new powerup or powerweapon is going to respawn reguardless if a player has one or not. That made it where you had to stay moving and time the powerups and weapons and fight for that area of the map at the specific time they were going to respawn. If you have never seriously played CE then its going to be hard to understand what we are talking about.
Posted by MrFreakinMiyagi
Reseda
Member since Feb 2007
19693 posts
Posted on 10/23/08 at 12:09 pm to
First off....... congrats on getting through a post without calling someone a moron

quote:

Please show me how I did this.

No need to link to the page that you are already reading.

If you can't recognize it, that's your problem. I am not going to take the time......
This post was edited on 10/23/08 at 12:10 pm
Posted by Bread Orgeron
Baw Bakery
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 10/23/08 at 12:24 pm to
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No they don't. Everyone agrees it was the gun that took the least amount of skill compared to the Pistol and the BR.


Yes they do. That's exactly what I said. By "most powerful" I mean it is the gun that requires the least amount of skill to us because of its power. Obviously, it doesn't overpower a rocket, but I'm speaking in terms of BR vs. AR vs. pistol.

CE pistol requires no skill. Halo 3 pistol requires skill because there is no scope and two shots from dual-wielded pistols in Halo 3 is equivalent to about one shot from a pistol in CE. It was too easy in CE.
Posted by GeauxWarrior12
Hammond
Member since Jan 2007
2804 posts
Posted on 10/23/08 at 12:43 pm to
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CE pistol requires no skill. Halo 3 pistol requires skill because there is no scope and two shots from dual-wielded pistols in Halo 3 is equivalent to about one shot from a pistol in CE. It was too easy in CE.


A sniper has a scope and it requires skill. Lets be honest anyone who says the CE Pistol required no skill is crazy. The Pistol did kill very fast and effectively, but only if you could land the shots and that wasn't easy and don't act like it was. What do you guys say about this.... The Gun that has the least amount of aim assist and magnetism is the gun that takes the most skill to use(CE Pisol). The gun that has a decent amount of aim assist and magnetism but doesn't have the most or the least doesn't take the most skill to use(3BR) The gun that has the most aim assist and magnetism does not take the most skill to use(2BR) How do we not all agree that the gun that has the least amount of aim assist and magnetism making it the hardest gun the land head shots with takes the most skill???
Posted by GeauxWarrior12
Hammond
Member since Jan 2007
2804 posts
Posted on 10/23/08 at 12:45 pm to
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No need to link to the page that you are already reading.

If you can't recognize it, that's your problem. I am not going to take the time......


You can't show me because I never contradicted myself. You don't understand that cause you never played CE and don't understand what I'm talking about.
Posted by MrFreakinMiyagi
Reseda
Member since Feb 2007
19693 posts
Posted on 10/23/08 at 12:53 pm to


I still have Halo:CE

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