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re: Another EA CFB 25 Thread: Recruiting Thoughts and Brainstorming Session

Posted on 8/3/24 at 4:14 pm to
Posted by Draco Malfoy
Member since Mar 2024
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Posted on 8/3/24 at 4:14 pm to
Can someone explain this to me:

I’m leading for a 5 star QB over Texas and am hard selling three A+ greens for him and he’s already visited me. Yet he commits to Texas each time I load and try again even though he’s not visiting them nor has he
Posted by TFS4E
Washington DC
Member since Nov 2008
13947 posts
Posted on 8/3/24 at 4:24 pm to
Are they more prestigious and/or a platinum pipeline?

The game tries to balance it so that the “better” teams get the better players more often than not.
Posted by Draco Malfoy
Member since Mar 2024
1685 posts
Posted on 8/3/24 at 5:47 pm to
I’m LSU and have won the previous two titles. Not sure on pipeline
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
20620 posts
Posted on 8/3/24 at 8:33 pm to
I just upgraded my coaching skill and have built up my pipelines. I’m getting 80 hours on some recruits so I’m able to double hard sell
This post was edited on 8/3/24 at 8:34 pm
Posted by Dairy Sanders
Member since Apr 2022
2963 posts
Posted on 8/3/24 at 8:49 pm to
quote:

me: I’m leading for a 5 star QB over Texas and am hard selling three A+ greens for him and he’s already visited me. Yet he commits to Texas each time I load and try again even though he’s not visiting them nor has he


What’s his interest level in you and them? Are you only spending the 40 hours with Hard Sell on him? They may have the max 75 hours spent on him.
Posted by Dairy Sanders
Member since Apr 2022
2963 posts
Posted on 8/3/24 at 8:53 pm to
quote:

OL (prefer 5)


I signed 6 centers in my first recruiting class and either 9 or 10 overall OL recruits my first recruiting class.

As a South Carolina fan, I know how important OL depth is. I want to be at least 3 deep in each position and have one additional tackle, guard, and center on RS at all times.
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
20620 posts
Posted on 8/3/24 at 10:44 pm to
I work recruiting by taking any 4 or 5 star guys initially interested in me then fill my board with the rest of the top prospects by need. Then if I’m not moving up on one that want interested I cut them and go after someone with no offers that’s a 5 or 4 star. I repeat until I’ve got 35 guys
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
57787 posts
Posted on 8/4/24 at 11:46 am to
Anyone else had a hard time recruiting/developing elite RBs?

I can establish and keep a very strong o line, always have an above average to great qb and one WR, but can’t get that Leonard Fournette, Todd Gurley guy.
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
20620 posts
Posted on 8/4/24 at 1:30 pm to
My backs have been really developing nicely. I pretty much run for 125-150 or more a week. Once up big I bring in all back ups.

My qbs have had issues developing
Posted by TFS4E
Washington DC
Member since Nov 2008
13947 posts
Posted on 8/4/24 at 5:34 pm to
quote:

Anyone else had a hard time recruiting/developing elite RBs?

I can establish and keep a very strong o line, always have an above average to great qb and one WR, but can’t get that Leonard Fournette, Todd Gurley guy.

I have 3 RBs above 89 OVR on my roster right now, which is the best I’ve ever had. I’ve noticed that the power backs and receiving backs tend to be better but power backs tend to be boom or bust. I’ve had a couple power backs go from 74 -> 82 before their eligibility was up and I’ve had some go 76 -> 86 in their redshirt freshman year.

My best recruiting position is easily WR. My current 4 deep at WR are 95, 91, 89, 88. I pump out WR like nobodies business.

ETA: my WR pro tip is look for deep threat WR that are 6’2” and above. Deep threat usually means their speed is above 94 and I’ve found deep threat receivers have a higher likelihood to be gems (anecdotally).
This post was edited on 8/4/24 at 5:41 pm
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
57787 posts
Posted on 8/5/24 at 4:42 pm to
I had a a back to back champ, SEC record holder for career passing yards, heisman finalist, not get drafted after his senior season because his overall was only like 85. It doesn't really matter at all, but that annoys me . He should have been gone after throwing for 4,500 yards and 45 TDs and winning the natty his RS Junior season.
Posted by Dairy Sanders
Member since Apr 2022
2963 posts
Posted on 8/6/24 at 10:33 am to
Ratings are what matters not stats.

If stats were all that matter then BJ Symons would have been the first overall pick.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
57787 posts
Posted on 8/6/24 at 11:46 am to
I get that

But a guy who puts up those numbers and has that success in the SEC is 100% getting drafted by someone
Posted by The Eric
Member since Sep 2008
22678 posts
Posted on 8/7/24 at 10:40 am to
A few more notes on things I have learned...

The pipeline ratings are extremely important. I have been in a decent lead for some guys who are way out of my pipeline (think FSU recruiting a Michigan guy).... once Michigan or ND finally offers him they jump a ton.

So I tend to now only recruit my strongest pipelines with a few others sprinkled in and maybe a rare guy from way out of the way when I was already 1 on his list.

Each week I pay close attention to how much influence I gained vs the opponent gained... the Bright influence is where you were the previous week. The dark influence is the amount you gained.

If I am gaining far more than the next few teams I reduce time spent with those guys so I can spread the wealth.

YOU CANNOT go auto recruit because you will lose a lot of "fights".

Do whatever you can to always be in the group of 8/5/3 as fast as possible so you dont get cut.

Once you get to top 5 and can schedule a visit it's important to try and look at how close they are to final 3. If it looks like they are going to be at the final 3 position within the next week you want to try to pick the following week as the visit date, so you get that extra bonus and it may push you over the edge. It's a risk because some guys progress to final 3 a bit slower so you may end up pulling a visit and getting within centimeters of closing the bar, but because there is a bit left and they have a visit that week, you probably gonna lose that guy.

Try your best to use process of elimination and determining the perfect pitch so you can start spamming that ASAP... once there are 2 green checks you can usually use process of elimination to get the 3rd but not always the case. I think its probably impossible to use process of elimination if you only have 1 green check but I could be wrong on that.

When you are gaining the same amount of influence each week as another team you either have to go all out or atleast stay where you are so you don't lose ground. If I got a guy that is borderline top3, I do everything I can to try and close that bar up that week. As many points as I can to that guy.


with these strategies as well as my other strategies ive been able to consistently recruit top 5 schools. There are still years where I am not able to land in the top 5 but I atleast filled needs
Posted by TheRouxGuru
Member since Nov 2019
11725 posts
Posted on 8/7/24 at 11:15 am to
quote:

I’m leading for a 5 star QB over Texas and am hard selling three A+ greens for him and he’s already visited me. Yet he commits to Texas each time I load and try again even though he’s not visiting them nor has he



Good lord. This is pathetic man…
Posted by TheRouxGuru
Member since Nov 2019
11725 posts
Posted on 8/7/24 at 11:17 am to
quote:

Anyone else had a hard time recruiting/developing elite RBs?


I have trouble finding RBs that have a speed rating over 91/92… meanwhile I can find QBs with 95+ speed a lot
Posted by Dairy Sanders
Member since Apr 2022
2963 posts
Posted on 8/7/24 at 11:23 am to
Yeah the athlete throw power ratings are OP in this game. Most of those 90+ speed athletes are suppose to be HBs/WRs and I usually still put them there because their overall will go to 79-85 if you do but if they have 90+ speed, 90+ THP, and Accuracies in the high 70s/low 80s, then yeah I’ll take a 75-76 overall QB instead.

One thing does bother me thought with transfers - they don’t get any offseason progression and that annoys me. I get that they may not have as much as players already on my roster, but frick give me something with them.
Posted by Piece
Member since Aug 2016
239 posts
Posted on 8/7/24 at 12:37 pm to
quote:

I think its probably impossible to use process of elimination if you only have 1 green check but I could be wrong on that.


One thing I started doing last night (thanks to a suggestion in this thread) is checking their deal breaker when I have one check mark. There were several time when their deal breaker wasn't checked green yet but something else was and I was able to guess their pitch via process of elimination.
Posted by The Eric
Member since Sep 2008
22678 posts
Posted on 8/8/24 at 10:08 am to
That’s actually a smart idea. Some of them don’t have deal breakers but the ones that do that’s actually a great trick.
Posted by TFS4E
Washington DC
Member since Nov 2008
13947 posts
Posted on 8/8/24 at 2:56 pm to
quote:

I have trouble finding RBs that have a speed rating over 91/92… meanwhile I can find QBs with 95+ speed a lot

If you recruit ATH QBs with this speed, they are typically also 81-82 OVR running backs, if that helps.
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