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volod
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2K Sports, EA, the ESRB and Gambling Machines?
As many of you are aware, gambling has become a staple in the most recent 2K sports games. ESRB has made it clear with their recent statements that they consider this mechanic as acceptable for E rated games and that it is separate from ratings involving violence and sexuality.

What I find hypocritical is that gambling is illegal in certain countries and localities, but the ESRB has influenced ratings in older games for having emulated gambling (ie not real money).

Remember when pokemon had this



and now we are dealing with this from 2K



When EA revealed that it was okay with "surprise mechanics" in video games, I knew that the problem would continue to persist.

The question is this: How do you feel about loot boxes and other gambling mechanics in video games alongside lenient ERSB ratings?

And yes, I know that these mechanics are not illegal. The issue is should children be exposed to them. At best, you are exposing kids to reward-feedback loops that are designed to be addictive to an adult.

I also know that this is entirely money-motivated. For some reason, sports gamers seem to be more accepting of this versus the MMO-lite looter-shooter crowd.
This post was edited on 2/12 at 9:59 pm


TigerOnTheMountain
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re: 2K Sports, EA, the ESRB and Gambling Machines?
My only response to this is what has happened in your life that has made you so obviously comfortable and encouraging of the nanny state?


WilliamTaylor21
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re: 2K Sports, EA, the ESRB and Gambling Machines?
I stopped buying 2K games when they started all their VC money grab shite. Not surprised to see slots.

2K ruined basketball games.
EA ruined football games.


bad93ex
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re: 2K Sports, EA, the ESRB and Gambling Machines?
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My only response to this is what has happened in your life that has made you so obviously comfortable and encouraging of the nanny state?



They targeted gamers...


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TheRig
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re: 2K Sports, EA, the ESRB and Gambling Machines?
Micro transactions are of the devil


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DownSouthCrawfish
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re: 2K Sports, EA, the ESRB and Gambling Machines?
I was done with 2k when I saw a VC sale ad flash across the scorers table display on 2k18.


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volod
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re: 2K Sports, EA, the ESRB and Gambling Machines?
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only response to this is what has happened in your life that has made you so obviously comfortable and encouraging of the nanny state?


The practices are unethical. I'm a big pro-capitalist guy, but there comes a point where you just have to call something what it is.

This IS GAMBLING. The only legal out that it has it that the prizes can't be redeemed for real world cash. But its a proven fact that children are more susceptible to addictive tendencies.

We monitor sexual and violent content because we do not want children exposed. Why is this any different. The only reason the ESRB does it is purely for profit.

Which begs the question, if censorship can bargained away, what's the point of having ESRB


ShootingsBricks4Life
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But its a proven fact that children are more susceptible to addictive tendencies.


Correct. That's why you do your job as a parent to make sure they aren't jackasses.

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Which begs the question, if censorship can bargained away, what's the point of having ESRB


So parents have something to blame when their kid huffs glue.
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ThuperThumpin
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The question is this: How do you feel about loot boxes and other gambling mechanics in video games alongside lenient ERSB ratings?


If it only involved in game currency I'm not as bothered by it but that is not the case with most games nowadays.


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