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re: Offset Smoker (stick burner) Recommendations?

Posted on 12/16/21 at 12:38 pm to
Posted by ruger35
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 12/16/21 at 12:38 pm to
You will get radiant cooking from the bottom. Your smoke doesn't really exit until the end of the plates. If you want a deflector at all try a jambo or Franklin/MillScale you can make with aluminum pans for test runs. Lose some grate by the fire box, but with the right draw it will turn it into a top down cooker.

Check out this video, I'm not sure but I think the Pecos is a small version of the Brazos, or vice versa.

Old Country baffle removal

What I'm running now, no deflector/baffle. Has given me the most consistent temps across the smoker. Tried two different deflectors my builder decided to try, and this is what I have settled on so far.



Jambo Style
This post was edited on 12/16/21 at 12:43 pm
Posted by WeHaveTheBest
Member since Aug 2021
882 posts
Posted on 12/16/21 at 9:07 pm to
LINK /

This builder just announced a model for $1700. No wait time.
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 12/17/21 at 9:50 am to
OC Pecos is identical to Brazos, but Pecos has thinner steel.

That all looks interesting, but I don't know if I want to take my angle grinder to this thing.

I'm still kind of skeptical if Academy will even get the OC Brazos that I ordered. I contacted the guy who makes the OC pits in Laredo and he said they aren't currently shipping anything...so we'll see I guess.

That other pit in the post above looks nice too. Not sure how I feel about dropping about $2 grand though on a sort of unknown builder.
Posted by Jake88
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Posted on 12/17/21 at 12:21 pm to
Yep, Lyfetyme.
This post was edited on 12/17/21 at 12:23 pm
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 1/4/22 at 9:49 am to
Well, Academy came through and I got my Brazos Deluxe in.

I already did some ribs and a chicken on it and both came out good. I went ahead and added a smoke stack extension, which was super easy, giving me an extra 18". I added a damper to the top of it using a paint can lid, a screw, and a duct clamp.





I did notice that there was a huge temp difference between the firebox side and the smoke stack side. Smoke stack was 50-100 degrees hotter...which seems crazy. I took the tuning plate (that came with the pit) out mid-cook. I also started using the damper to cover the stack about 1/2 way and it seemed to help. The temps were only 25-50 degrees different at that point.

I think I may just go ahead and remove the deflector / baffle. It seems like that is the cheap / easy solution.
This post was edited on 1/4/22 at 9:51 am
Posted by bbarras85
Member since Jul 2021
1967 posts
Posted on 1/4/22 at 10:38 am to
These are built like a brick shite house. I have a homemade reverse flow that works well but I will have one of these.


LINK
This post was edited on 1/4/22 at 10:38 am
Posted by xXLSUXx
New Orleans, LA
Member since Oct 2010
10306 posts
Posted on 1/4/22 at 11:44 am to
Nice. You'll enjoy it, and that will last you as long as you need it. Yeah, I'd remove the baffle on the Brazos if you can. Many manufacturers added them to protect the firebox side, but ended up forcing the heat further down, causing them to work almost TOO well. Similar to a reverse flow, but not. So you end up getting the heat flow coming up almost directly under the meat instead of over the top of the fat cap. It's a delicate combination of stack height and baffle length. Since you added a stack extension it's even more important to remove the baffle.
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 1/6/22 at 8:48 am to
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ruger35



How'd you go about removing your baffle plate? I can't find my angle grinder so used a dremel on each joint (2 total) on both sides of the baffle. I cut through both of them and was thinking I could just bend the plate up and down till it snaps off like in this video: LINK

But it will barely budge up or down. Maybe this is because it is a Pecos in the video and the metal is a lot thinner? Did you cut through the joints on the firebox too?
This post was edited on 1/6/22 at 8:49 am
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 1/7/22 at 8:58 am to
Bump.

xXLSUXx, did you remove your baffle? Any advice on the above?
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 1/10/22 at 10:17 am to
Update: I got the baffle plate off. I scored the weld joints at the top (against the firebox) with my dremel - there were 3 total. After doing this, it allowed some movement when I pulled up on the baffle, and I was able to bend it up and down a few times to snap it off.

I noticed a major improvement on temperatures across the grate. Temperature at the smoke stack end was now lower than the side closer to the firebox, as expected, but only by 10 degrees or less...usually was within 5 degrees, which is awesome.

I smoked a butt yesterday and it came out great. Thanks again to everyone for the recommendations on a smoker. I'm very pleased with my purchase.
This post was edited on 1/10/22 at 10:18 am
Posted by snakanator
Member since Sep 2010
634 posts
Posted on 3/1/22 at 1:23 pm to
I just ordered the Workhorse 1969 in the wagon configuration. 3/8" steel versus 1/4" by Mill Scale and Moberg. Delivery in July, but hopefully worth the wait.
Posted by SingleMalt1973
Member since Feb 2022
11913 posts
Posted on 3/1/22 at 10:03 pm to
I would go,with a Lang Patio Model, they are not,cheap but smokers are a definite you get what you pay for item.
Posted by ruger35
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
1588 posts
Posted on 3/1/22 at 10:32 pm to
Sorry I didn’t see your question. I had mine cut out with a plasma cutter. Sounds like you got it done and making some good cue.
Posted by ruger35
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
1588 posts
Posted on 3/1/22 at 10:36 pm to
quote:

I just ordered the Workhorse 1969 in the wagon configuration. 3/8" steel versus 1/4" by Mill Scale and Moberg. Delivery in July, but hopefully worth the wait.


I haven’t seen any of their workhorse pits in person, but some of the welds on their Primitive pits are still awful. I know it doesn’t always equate to functionality, but just didn’t hold up to the eye test vs a MillScale or Moberg. 1/4” vs 3/8” didn’t really matter, but I 100% agree the Workhorse pits are priced accordingly for their size. You’re paying for the whole “MillScale” lifestyle now. Though Matt and Caleb are two of the nicest people I’ve ever met.
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