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Posted on 11/11/13 at 10:21 pm to
Posted by Glock17
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Posted on 11/11/13 at 10:21 pm to
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Question for everyone on the board. What separates an IPA from a DIPA? Is it black and white - either it's a DIPA or it's not? Or is there some gray area and the brewer has some flexibility to call it what he wants?


I've always thought anything above 8% was considered a DIPA but I may be totally wrong on that
Posted by TheChosenOne
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 11/11/13 at 10:22 pm to
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Question for everyone on the board. What separates an IPA from a DIPA? Is it black and white - either it's a DIPA or it's not? Or is there some gray area and the brewer has some flexibility to call it what he wants?


I have this same question when it comes to some DIPA/TIPA's and Barleywines.
This post was edited on 11/11/13 at 10:22 pm
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Port Saint Lucie, FL
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 11/11/13 at 10:28 pm to
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I've always thought anything above 8% was considered a DIPA but I may be totally wrong on that


So did I.

I drank an IPA last night that was 8% ABV. That's the same as Pliny and Heady Topper. So is there something else that demarcates a beer as a DIPA -besides ABV? Or is 8% the cutoff and it's up to the brewer to call it whatever he wants to call it?
Posted by urinetrouble
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 11/11/13 at 10:34 pm to
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Question for everyone on the board. What separates an IPA from a DIPA? Is it black and white - either it's a DIPA or it's not? Or is there some gray area and the brewer has some flexibility to call it what he wants?


If you follow the BJCP style guidelines, then 7.5% ABV is one of the quantifiable dividing lines. They also indicate that if it is over 70 IBUs, then it is likely in DIPA territory.

But brewers can still call it whatever they feel like. Zombie Dust is clearly an IPA, not an American Pale Ale, per BJCP guidelines, but that isn't stopping FFF from calling it one.
Posted by urinetrouble
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 11/11/13 at 10:46 pm to
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I have this same question when it comes to some DIPA/TIPA's and Barleywines.


Barleywines are definitely supposed to be more malty, richer in body, and have more of an alcohol presence. Though, the American style can be pretty hoppy at times. And I've had quite a few DIPAs that were teetering on the brink of barleywine in their maltiness and mouthfeel.
Posted by Kim Jong Ir
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 11/11/13 at 10:51 pm to
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And I've had quite a few DIPAs that were teetering on the brink of barleywine in their maltiness and mouthfeel.


Thomas Creek Up the Creek comes to mind.

Posted by Jax-Tiger
Port Saint Lucie, FL
Member since Jan 2005
24843 posts
Posted on 11/11/13 at 11:01 pm to
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If you follow the BJCP style guidelines, then 7.5% ABV is one of the quantifiable dividing lines. They also indicate that if it is over 70 IBUs, then it is likely in DIPA territory.


This beer was 8% ABV and 70 IBU's.

ETA: Hell, why don't I just send you guys one and let you judge for yourselves... Or is one enough to come to a complete determination?
This post was edited on 11/11/13 at 11:05 pm
Posted by urinetrouble
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 11/11/13 at 11:03 pm to
Sounds like a DIPA to me.
Posted by TheChosenOne
Member since Dec 2005
18544 posts
Posted on 11/11/13 at 11:05 pm to
That's definitely the one I had in mind as well, Kim. Founders Devil Dancer seems to straddle that line as well.


Thanks UT...the IPA/DIPA line is a lot more hazy than the DIPA/Barleywine line for sure. On that note, I had The Kraken, Barrel Aged Barleywine, from Real Ale earlier and it was awesome. It's no Sucaba...but what is?
This post was edited on 11/11/13 at 11:06 pm
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Port Saint Lucie, FL
Member since Jan 2005
24843 posts
Posted on 11/11/13 at 11:07 pm to
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the IPA/DIPA line is a lot more hazy than the DIPA/Barleywine line for sure


Not when you throw the Triple IPA into the mix. Triple IPA's must be hard to pull off, as I recently had one from Boneyard that was beyond good, and I can't ever recall having one that I liked, before...
Posted by TheChosenOne
Member since Dec 2005
18544 posts
Posted on 11/11/13 at 11:14 pm to
Truth, I have a hard time finding a triple IPA that I like(never had PTY). The only one I remember was Drake's Black Hopocalypse and that was at a tasting. Not sure if I could have finished a whole bottle by myself.
Posted by Rohan2Reed
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 11/11/13 at 11:29 pm to
These double imperial stouts don't frick around. Only gonna get through half this bomber tonight.
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
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Posted on 11/12/13 at 8:25 am to
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Founders Devil Dancer seems to straddle that line as well.
labeled a TIPA

actually an american barleywine, imho
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