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re: Crawfish - Over-Soaking

Posted on 2/21/23 at 10:11 am to
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 2/21/23 at 10:11 am to
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You are failing to grasp the analogy.


Ok baw. Please enlighten everyone then on how a crawfish is basically a sponge. What exactly is similar about the two to prompt you to make the comparison?

Posted by BugAC
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Posted on 2/21/23 at 10:12 am to
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Because the BR area thinks they know about food, which for the most part they don’t.


Based on what? I'm relatively new to boiling crawfish, i've only been doing it about 3 or 4 years, but i think that gives me a fresh perspective. It's anecdotal, but my father-in-law, who has been boiling crawfish his entire life, after having mine said, "well Bug, i think i can hang up my paddle and let you do them from now on". Which was a pretty big complement.

That said, i'm not stuck in any one convention. As with my "BR area" cooking, every thing i cook, i try to improve. Sometimes, "this is how i've done it for 30 years" doesn't necessarily means it's the best. I also homebrew beer, and even some things i've learned from homebrewing i've carried over into crawfish cooking.

For example, hops have some of the same essential oils as citrus. When you brew hazy IPA's, the new convention is to add the bulk of your hops towards the end of the boil, and even after shutoff, because you will boil off some of those hop aromatics. Adding the hops late, gives hazy IPA's that juicy/fruity flavor/aroma (among other techniques). It can logically be inferred, that this same thing happens with adding lemons/oranges early in the boil. I've tried it a few times, and i have noticed more citrus in the crawfish, but i have not done a side by side of adding all the fruit early vs adding all late. Right now i'm about 50/50 fruit added at the beginning, and 50% of the fruit added at flameout, during the soak.

Oh, and i use ice too.
This post was edited on 2/21/23 at 10:15 am
Posted by BugAC
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Posted on 2/21/23 at 10:16 am to
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joeleblanc


Let me ask you this. You stated that you do the dusting method of crawfish seasoning?

Are you really boiling crawfish in plain water with no seasoning?
This post was edited on 2/21/23 at 10:17 am
Posted by joeleblanc
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Posted on 2/21/23 at 10:18 am to
Negatory. 1 large bag of Swampdust added to the water.
Posted by BugAC
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Posted on 2/21/23 at 10:20 am to
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Negatory. 1 large bag of Swampdust added to the water.


Whew...
Posted by joeleblanc
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Posted on 2/21/23 at 10:22 am to
Lawd. You know how a sponge will soak up water? A live crawfish does the same. Do you actually think a crawfish in boiling water isn’t soaking up water after it’s dead? That it has to soak? That somehow more spice will be added?
Posted by OleWar
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Posted on 2/21/23 at 10:27 am to
That is how you get your house burned down by friends and family.
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 2/21/23 at 10:33 am to
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Lawd. You know how a sponge will soak up water?


I do

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A live crawfish does the same


Just so I make sure I understand. Your position is that a crawfish absorbs water at exactly the same rate as a sponge?

You know that is not true, right?

Just put any piece of meat in heavily salted water. Do you honestly believe that if you leave it in for 1 minute, versus 1 hour, 2 hours, hell, overnight...that the the meat will taste the same no matter how long it is in the salted water

You've got to be trolling. If so, well done!
This post was edited on 2/21/23 at 10:38 am
Posted by BugAC
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Posted on 2/21/23 at 10:35 am to
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A live crawfish does the same. Do you actually think a crawfish in boiling water isn’t soaking up water after it’s dead? That it has to soak? That somehow more spice will be added?



Again, you are ignoring absorption rate and assuming that isn't a factor. Why?

I mean, if you want to use the sponge analogy, ok. But a sponge, also, has an absorption rate. If you take a dry sponge, place the sponge on the water's surface then pick it back up, it will not be saturated. shite, if that's too hard to understand, watch a Bounty commercial. Ever use shitty paper towels? The material to soak up a liquid has differing absorption rates. THe more porous a material, and the duration of "soak" determines how much that item will absorb liquid.

Crawfish is no different. And everyone who has boiled crawfish, except you apparently, can tell a difference between a crawfish that didn't "soak" vs. crawfish that did. No, you don't get additional "spices or seasoning" from soaking, the seasoning is at a finite point when it is added to the boil (unless you are the weirdos that dust crawfish). If you soak, however, the crawfish absorb more of that water and seasoning, and you have juicier crawfish. I suck the heads on crawfish, and there is a difference. Dry crawfish are not very enjoyable.
This post was edited on 2/21/23 at 10:37 am
Posted by Croacka
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Posted on 2/21/23 at 10:36 am to
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If you aren’t going to two pot method, then cut the heat on the boil pot when it starts foaming good. It doesn’t have to completely rolling boil and damn sure doesn’t need to boil for five minutes.


there's some decent and horrible advice in this thread, but if you follow this quoted statement, you will do fine


It's very rare I ever get a rolling boil unless they are huge crawfish
Posted by LSU fan 246
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Posted on 2/21/23 at 10:37 am to
So soaking crawfish in a pot for 30 minutes is going to have the sane amount of spice as if I cut the fire and immediately pull the crawfish out?
Posted by BugAC
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Posted on 2/21/23 at 10:38 am to
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there's some decent and horrible advice in this thread, but if you follow this quoted statement, you will do fine


It's very rare I ever get a rolling boil unless they are huge crawfish



Seafood cooks very quickly. Once i see the pot boiling, i cut off the heat and remove the lid. I give it a few minutes then i add a little bit of ice.
Posted by Croacka
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Posted on 2/21/23 at 10:49 am to
In reality, food cooks at high temps. 212F isn’t some magical number that begins the cooking process. It’s just a good point of reference for cooks to use.

They just need to make a sous vide machine large enough for a sack of crawfish and we’ll have perfect crawfish every time.

I kid
Posted by joeleblanc
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Posted on 2/21/23 at 10:57 am to
It’s an analogy. Not rocket science
Posted by joeleblanc
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Posted on 2/21/23 at 11:01 am to
Tell me how soaking will add more spice. There is only so much spice. It’s diluted in the water. Soaking won’t add more spice. It’s impossible to add more spice, without actually adding more spice to the water.
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 2/21/23 at 11:24 am to
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Tell me how soaking will add more spice.


Have you ever marinated a meat? Brined a turkey? Or is that all just nonsense to you also?


This post was edited on 2/21/23 at 11:25 am
Posted by Tigerbowhunter
Lexington, Oklahoma
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Posted on 2/21/23 at 11:26 am to
You know you can just take the lid off after the burner is turned off and spray the pot with a waterhole and most of the time the crawfish will sink within 15 minutes and no over cooking or diluting water.(just spray the bottom real good)
Posted by BigDropper
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Posted on 2/21/23 at 11:31 am to
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How? They are already immersed in water.

Diffusion. The net movement of anything generally from a region of higher concentration to a region of lower concentration.

The seasoning (solute) is carried by the water (solvent) from a region of higher concentration (seasoned boil water) to a region of lower concentration (crawfish) in the direction that tends to equalize the solute. Diffusion is dependent on duration and concentration.

This Easter you can do a fun little experiment dying eater eggs to understand diffusion. Make equal concentrations of water and dye. Soak one egg for 5 minutes and another egg for 10 then observe which egg absorbed more dye. Now apply this principle to crawfish.

Soaking doesn't add more spice, but crawfish absorb more spice available in the water the longer they soak until equilibrium is achieved.
Posted by Trout Bandit
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Posted on 2/21/23 at 11:54 am to
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It’s impossible to add more spice, without actually adding more spice to the water.

It's called diffusion you dumb hayseed. You should've learned that in 8th grade science class but you were jacking off in the cane field.
Posted by LSU fan 246
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Posted on 2/21/23 at 12:03 pm to
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Tell me how soaking will add more spice. There is only so much spice. It’s diluted in the water. Soaking won’t add more spice. It’s impossible to add more spice, without actually adding more spice to the water.


:facepalm:
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