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Backyard gardening

Posted on 1/8/16 at 2:33 pm
Posted by TU Rob
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2008
12732 posts
Posted on 1/8/16 at 2:33 pm
Long story short, my pets all died last year, and that got us thinking about using some of the space in the back of the yard for gardening. I used to grow tomatoes and some other stuff out there, but one of the dogs would always eat them before they were ripe.

I have a space that is probably 30 feet by 40 feet in mind. Back corner of the lot, and everything back there is fenced in. I have an old tiller that I think I can get cleaned up and running so that will make planting much easier. Is there anything I need to know about the soil? I've only grown stuff in pots before, but I just want to plant in the ground.

Thinking about squash, cukes, tomatoes, some peppers, beans, and probably a few more things. I'm going to run a long hose back there and put a spout on a post to connect a shorter one or sprinkler to for irrigation. It gets full sun most of the time.

TIA
Posted by Geauxld Finger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
31679 posts
Posted on 1/8/16 at 2:36 pm to
You will definitely want to mix in some prime gardening soil and some type of fertilizer.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
38656 posts
Posted on 1/8/16 at 2:36 pm to
raised beds are a lot easier and less work
Posted by TU Rob
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2008
12732 posts
Posted on 1/8/16 at 2:37 pm to
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You will definitely want to mix in some prime gardening soil and some type of fertilizer.


Yeah, I was thinking something like that. I remember buying the garden soil when I was planting some shrubs in the front a few years back. Wasn't sure what all was necessary for vegetables. Any specifics to look for?
Posted by Geauxld Finger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
31679 posts
Posted on 1/8/16 at 2:37 pm to
Yes I'll second the raised beds. A whole lot easier to control weeds and grass growth
Posted by TU Rob
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2008
12732 posts
Posted on 1/8/16 at 2:39 pm to
quote:

raised beds are a lot easier and less work


I used to have some of those. The posts were rotten, and we ended up tearing it all out and building a nice deck down in the yard instead. For the size I'm thinking about, that's a ton of lumber and soil to buy and build out. I would rather till the land and go that route.
Posted by TU Rob
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2008
12732 posts
Posted on 1/8/16 at 2:45 pm to
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A whole lot easier to control weeds and grass growth


This area doesn't have grass in it now. It is all dirt and whatever leaves fell on it in the fall. I understand about the weeds, but would rather not deal with a building project just now.
Posted by bdevill
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Mar 2008
11805 posts
Posted on 1/8/16 at 3:37 pm to
Tilling is fine. That'll churn up the weeds and you can use an iron rake and clear your plot.
Mix in some manure (you can buy it at garden stores).
I like following the farmer's almanac for best dates for planting above and below ground.

Farmer's Almanac
Posted by TU Rob
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2008
12732 posts
Posted on 1/8/16 at 4:11 pm to
quote:

I like following the farmer's almanac for best dates for planting above and below ground


Thanks. Looks like I have about a month before I need to get anything ready. I have a couple of 3 day weekends coming up so I'll get out there and bust it all up soon and clear out anything growing now. Would it be best to add manure/fertilizer right after I till it and get it mixed in, then wait a few weeks to plant? Or should I only add the manure when I plant?
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 1/8/16 at 4:13 pm to
Go out and spade up a few shovels of dirt....is it heavy clay or loose crumbly sand? You can put in extra sand if it's gumbo clay or till in a whole bunch of organic matter if it's too sandy. Your local county agent has soil test kits so you can find out if it's acid or alkaline or deficient in something.
Posted by bleeng
The Woodlands
Member since Apr 2013
4062 posts
Posted on 1/8/16 at 4:14 pm to
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I send my soil in to TA&M Agriculture Extension to get tested for pH before I plant my vegetables. The soil at my home is mostly clay and high pH (Alkaline) I always need lots of organics to get it balanced.
Posted by TU Rob
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2008
12732 posts
Posted on 1/8/16 at 4:26 pm to
It is mostly clay. I'm in Birmingham, and most of my yard a few inches down from the top is pretty thick. I've gotten real familiar with my shovel from a lot of landscaping work last summer, but this particular part of the yard has some dirt as well.
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