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Posted on 2/22/16 at 11:02 pm to
Posted by Nonetheless
MAGA
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 2/22/16 at 11:02 pm to
hassan whiteside
Posted by LosLobos111
Austere
Member since Feb 2011
45385 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 1:04 pm to
Damn what a mess

Just to say: they did not let me deduct points so I had to add points.

Posted by dj30
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2006
29855 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 1:14 pm to
Also ESPN replied to the 2nd message I sent.



quote:

Dear Darryl,

Thank you for your reply.

I apologize for any inconvenience. If teams have not played an equal number of games against teams with the same Head-to-Head record then you must use Total Points For instead. So King James gets the 5th seed since they have the most points of the 8-8 teams. Now we start over. O.G. Money beat RJPT by NILLA ICE both times they played so O.G. Money gets the 6th seed.

If you edit the playoff bracket you can change the matchups to be whatever you would prefer.

For live assistance with this or any other issue, please call Customer Care at 1-888-549-3776 (ESPN) between 9:00 a.m. and 1:00 a.m. EST.

Regards,

Blake
ESPN.com Customer Care

Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
82093 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 1:27 pm to
Looks like that settles it. They need to make it clearer in the settings though
Posted by TheSexecutioner
Member since Mar 2011
5264 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 1:32 pm to
quote:

Looks like that settles it. They need to make it clearer in the settings though


It was very clear in the settings. It was simply wrong. It said it went to points in the case of 3 teams having the same record and unequal amounts of games. That condition was met and then it simply did not go to points. It went to a hybrid of points and head-to-head. There was no lack of clarity. The league was played by rules completely different than the ones that teams had access too.

As explained in the email, the league manager had the power to manually set the playoff teams. He could have done so to reflect the rules that all 12 played the season with access too. He chose not to do so and keep Vanillas money instead. Its a hose job.
This post was edited on 2/23/16 at 1:36 pm
Posted by TheSexecutioner
Member since Mar 2011
5264 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 1:45 pm to
quote:

PLAYOFF SEEDING AND TIE-BREAKERS (Custom Leagues)
When your league converts into playoff mode the system automatically generates a seed for each team in the league based on the regular season results. The seeds determine where the system places each team in the playoffs. The primary factors which determine seeds are:
1. Division Winner(s)
2. Winning Percentage
In the event that two or more teams have the same winning percentage at the conclusion of the Regular Season, and have played the same number of Head-to-Head games between them, the following tie-breaking system determines the seed:
1 - Overall record *
2 - Head-to-head record
3 - Overall points (H2H Points League only)
4 - Division record
5 - Overall points-against (H2H Points League only)
6 - Coin Flip
* NOTE: Overall record is based on winning percentage. Therefore, a team that has more losses than another team might have the same winning percentage.
In the event that two or more teams have the same winning percentage at the conclusion of the Regular Season, and have not played the same number of Head-to-Head games between them, the following tie-breaking system determines seed:

1 - Overall record
2 - Overall points (H2H Points League only)
3 - Division record
4 - Overall points-against (H2H Points League only)
5 - Coin Flip
NOTE: If your league's rules do not agree with the system tiebreaker rules described above the playoff seeds can easily be changed by the League Manager. To edit the playoff seeds/bracket simply go to the Playoff Matchups page and click on the "Edit" link.


Posted again so that any poster who tries to spin some mental gymnastics and contest that the rules stated are in any way unclear or needing an explanation from ESPN has to do so with this as the previous post.
Posted by Gtothemoney
Da North Shore
Member since Sep 2012
17722 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 1:56 pm to
quote:

re: Pelican Talk Fantasy Basketball League, Year 5Posted on 1/4/16 at 8:27 pm to Gtothemoney Mr. Ice is allowing you the opportunity to give up now, rather than succumbing to your embarrassing, losing fate. You have the chance to give up your good players and erase the hope that will ultimately turn to pain when you lose. Your move, OG



Lol. Have fun in the consolation bracket.
Posted by Nonetheless
MAGA
Member since Jan 2012
34389 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 3:02 pm to
Oooooooooo
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
82093 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 4:12 pm to
Pretty sure I got a similar message in a trade offer.
Posted by Fearthehat0307
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2007
65256 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 7:02 pm to
I'm not reading vanilla's multiple page melt. Does he have a legit gripe or is he just a sore loser? are there nefarious things going on in this league?
This post was edited on 2/23/16 at 7:04 pm
Posted by TheSexecutioner
Member since Mar 2011
5264 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 8:57 pm to
quote:

I'm not reading vanilla's multiple page melt. Does he have a legit gripe or is he just a sore loser? are there nefarious things going on in this league?


Just read the list of rules I just posted and look at the final regular league standings. Decide for yourself. You don't have to go back to the other pages. Vanilla was 2nd amongst the 3 in head-to-head and 2nd in points. Somehow it went points to break the 3 way tie and THEN back to head to head. Despite it not saying anything about that and clearly saying it would go to points to break a tie in the case that 3 teams had the same record and different amounts of games between them(a condition that was met).

Of course the 6th seed OG who shouldn't be in as per the rules thinks everything was in order.

And this isn't a biased interpretation. It was stated in this message by other posters that Vanilla Ice had clinched. Because he had based on the rules that were posted and accessible to all members.
This post was edited on 2/23/16 at 9:04 pm
Posted by Nonetheless
MAGA
Member since Jan 2012
34389 posts
Posted on 2/24/16 at 8:30 am to
Vanilla ice missed the playoffs. How pissed are you?
Posted by Nonetheless
MAGA
Member since Jan 2012
34389 posts
Posted on 2/24/16 at 10:52 am to
Vice is out of the playoffs. Why is he picking players up
Posted by Gtothemoney
Da North Shore
Member since Sep 2012
17722 posts
Posted on 2/24/16 at 11:05 am to
tLEGEND STATUS of tCONSOLATION BRACKET.
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
82093 posts
Posted on 2/24/16 at 8:33 pm to
Vanilla throwing a tantrum now on the league message board
Posted by Gtothemoney
Da North Shore
Member since Sep 2012
17722 posts
Posted on 2/24/16 at 8:48 pm to
damn, that's effed up.
Posted by Fearthehat0307
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2007
65256 posts
Posted on 2/24/16 at 9:00 pm to
good lord, have some dignity man
Posted by dj30
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2006
29855 posts
Posted on 2/24/16 at 9:12 pm to
Vanilla,


How the consolation bracket treating you?
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
82093 posts
Posted on 2/24/16 at 9:34 pm to
Team tots needs to chill out and save this shite for 2 weeks from now.
Posted by Coach D
Member since Oct 2010
1741 posts
Posted on 2/25/16 at 9:56 am to
At what point do we just remove him from the league on there? He's in consolation bracket anyway. Those guys should be barred from making moves (most leagues have this written or unwritten rule).
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