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Posted by Gtothemoney
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Posted on 2/22/16 at 1:32 pm to
I'm don't think I'm out of line, and I'm not trying to be a dick, but I'm in the playoffs until ESPN tells me I'm not.

I'm not letting anyone come in with hypothetical algorithm bullshite and try to persuade us otherwise.
Posted by TheSexecutioner
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 2/22/16 at 1:33 pm to
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These are the rules from ESPN. The playoff matchups are automatically set UNLESS the commissioner goes in and manipulates settings manually, which he DID NOT DO.


Or, if the commissioner goes in and manipulates the standings manually. Which he DID DO. Because he had to. Please dude, go look at what you posted. The last post of page 83. It explains that your manual corrections are not recognized by the automatically set playoff match ups. Therefore, it didnt recognize you crediting Vanilla Ice with a win in week 7.
Posted by drake20
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 2/22/16 at 1:38 pm to
Makes sense to me
Posted by Nonetheless
MAGA
Member since Jan 2012
34389 posts
Posted on 2/22/16 at 1:42 pm to
I would rather play vanilla ice or money over dj FWIW
Posted by TheSexecutioner
Member since Mar 2011
5264 posts
Posted on 2/22/16 at 1:45 pm to
CGG, please, read the last paragraph of what you posted on the last post of page 83. Straight from ESPN It says your manual corrections are not recognized. Vanilla Ice won a game solely due to a manual correction. Please read that paragraph. It is 100% of the explanation of why Vanilla Ice is not in.
Posted by Gtothemoney
Da North Shore
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 2/22/16 at 1:46 pm to
Fine. If ESPN says this is the case then that'll be it. But I ain't buying it until the say so.
This post was edited on 2/22/16 at 1:48 pm
Posted by TheSexecutioner
Member since Mar 2011
5264 posts
Posted on 2/22/16 at 1:50 pm to
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Fine. If ESPN says this is the case then that'll be it. But I ain't buying it until the say so.


They already did. Read the last paragraph of the last post on page 83. But I understand why you would want to wait for an official explanation

Honestly, I'm not sure if you or James should be out. Depends if the tiebreaker is head to head or points. Thing is, under neither can Vanilla be out. I guess we should all play to maximize points until we can sort it out.
Posted by Nonetheless
MAGA
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 2/22/16 at 1:52 pm to
Youre putting some serious effort into this. I commend you
Posted by TheSexecutioner
Member since Mar 2011
5264 posts
Posted on 2/22/16 at 1:53 pm to
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I dont think this is the case. If it didnt take you into consideration, I wouldve been the 6th seed and not 5.


Darryl, it could be that they recognize the win, but 0 of the points. It said nothing about not recognizing the manual adjustment to the W/L column. Just that any manually adjusted SCORING isn't recognized. So perhaps since the commish manually set the points, it recognized Vanilla as 0. In which case OG would beat him on total points. So you would be 5th and OG 6.

So basically, perhaps only the tiebreaker algorithm ignores manual adjustment. Not the algorithm that dictates whether the tiebreaker needs to be used.
This post was edited on 2/22/16 at 1:57 pm
Posted by TheSexecutioner
Member since Mar 2011
5264 posts
Posted on 2/22/16 at 1:55 pm to
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Youre putting some serious effort into this. I commend you


For a second I thought I was taking crazy pills.

ESPN clearly posted they don't recognize manually adjustments and we were heavily affected by a manual adjustment. And everybody was just ignoring that.
Posted by Gtothemoney
Da North Shore
Member since Sep 2012
17722 posts
Posted on 2/22/16 at 1:59 pm to
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Darryl, it could be that they recognize the win, but 0 of the points. It said nothing about not recognizing the manual adjustment to the W/L column. Just that any manually adjusted POINTS arent recognized. So perhaps since the commish manually set the points, it recognized Vanilla as 0. In which case OG would beat him on total points. So you would be 5th and OG 6.


This is why I ain't buying it. If my aunt had nuts, perhaps she'd shite in the woods. In which case , my uncle might be a bear.
Posted by TheSexecutioner
Member since Mar 2011
5264 posts
Posted on 2/22/16 at 2:02 pm to
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This is why I ain't buying it. If my aunt had nuts, perhaps she'd shite in the woods. In which case , my uncle might be a bear.


Dude. ESPN says in no uncertain terms that it's playoff algorithm DOES NOT RECOGNIZE manual scoring adjustment. Vanilla Ice's score was manually adjusted in week 7.

Do you not understand how that would affect the playoffs?
This post was edited on 2/22/16 at 2:06 pm
Posted by dj30
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2006
29855 posts
Posted on 2/22/16 at 2:07 pm to
Coach D, did you get a chance to email Espn? Or None, can you do it if youre free?
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
82093 posts
Posted on 2/22/16 at 2:09 pm to
Someone explain the exact scenario in a write up so Coach D can send. He hasn't been following close enough to get all the facts
Posted by TheSexecutioner
Member since Mar 2011
5264 posts
Posted on 2/22/16 at 2:10 pm to
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Coach D, did you get a chance to email Espn? Or None, can you do it if youre free?


Daryl, I would much rather you do it. You have clearly displayed that you have a grasp on the relevant information

I don't know which of the others have processed the relevant facts. And its pretty complicated. Presenting all the relevant information is important.
Posted by Coach D
Member since Oct 2010
1741 posts
Posted on 2/22/16 at 2:10 pm to
Right, all I get is some random/alter is in here crying in defense of the biggest bitcher in the league who happened to, in no uncertain terms, get banned from the website. Wonder why...? SMDH
This post was edited on 2/22/16 at 2:11 pm
Posted by TheSexecutioner
Member since Mar 2011
5264 posts
Posted on 2/22/16 at 2:18 pm to
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Someone explain the exact scenario in a write up so Coach D can send. He hasn't been following close enough to get all the facts


Haha, exactly what I was saying.....


Team A, B, and C are in different divisions. All 3 teams are 8-8. No other teams in the league have the same record. League tiebreaker settings is set as head-to-head. Team A is 2-0 against Team B and 1-0 against Team C. Team B is 1-0 against team C. Team A and B are in the same division. Team C is in the other division. Team C has the most points, followed by Team B, and Team A has the least. The automatically generated settings seeded them in this order: C, A, B

In week 7, team B won a game against an unrelated team due to the other team playing too many players. The commissioner manually corrected this game by adding points to team B. Even without the added points, team B would have substantially more points than team A. Team B wants to know why he was left out of the playoffs despite winning head to head against team C and on points against team A. Due to the following passage found on ESPN's explanation, he suspects it is because his manually corrected win points were not credited to him by ESPN's playoff algorithm:

IMPORTANT NOTE : This page is the master page for ALL edits to playoff matchups/results. ANY manual scoring adjustments (either before or during the playoffs) will NOT change where each team is placed in the playoffs.






This post was edited on 2/22/16 at 2:20 pm
Posted by Gtothemoney
Da North Shore
Member since Sep 2012
17722 posts
Posted on 2/22/16 at 2:59 pm to
So, is your theory that ESPN is recognizing you at 8-8, but giving you zero points for your win in week 7? I thought you said that ESPN is recognizing you as 7-9? If you are being recognized at 7-9, I should be the 5th seed like DJ said.
Posted by TheSexecutioner
Member since Mar 2011
5264 posts
Posted on 2/22/16 at 3:03 pm to
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So, is your theory that ESPN is recognizing you at 8-8, but giving you zero points for your win in week 7? I thought you said that ESPN is recognizing you as 7-9? If you are being recognized at 7-9, I should be the 5th seed like DJ said.


That is a possibly explanation. Without question, it says it doesn't recognize the points. I would think they would also not recognize the win, but like y'all said, that doesn't jive with your seeding.

But I'm not conjecturing that they didnt recognize the points. ESPN says they don't recognize the points. Im conjecturing perhaps they DO recognize the W/L because they arent clear on that.
Posted by TheSexecutioner
Member since Mar 2011
5264 posts
Posted on 2/22/16 at 3:09 pm to
I certainly wouldn't just lay down if I were you. Like you said, that doesn't jive with what y'all are seeded. Something is clearly weird. I just know theres no way Vanilla can be cut out here. And ESPN says that Vanilla would unrightfully be cut out based on the manual adjustment. So that should obviously be manually changed. I'm really not sure which of y'all should be in. It comes down to whether that "if the teams don't have an equal amount of games" clause kicks in. Were either of you two affected by a manual adjustment perhaps?
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