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Posted on 3/9/16 at 12:55 pm to MrPappagiorgio
Posted on 3/9/16 at 12:55 pm to MrPappagiorgio
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either give EVERYONE (besides ICE) their money back
Definitely not doing this. These issues started during the playoffs.
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Posted on 3/9/16 at 1:01 pm to dj30
Ill be back later
I think tots suggestion is the most fair way to end this crap and then we'll tackle overhauling the league in the offeseason.
I think tots suggestion is the most fair way to end this crap and then we'll tackle overhauling the league in the offeseason.
Posted on 3/9/16 at 1:02 pm to Gtothemoney
Just from observing this situation here's a couple rational thoughts from an outsider:
1) Seems like everyone, including commish, was asleep at the wheel and didn't catch the roster purge until 2 weeks later.
2) No one complained about said roster purge until way after the fact and b/c it "might have" impacted the matchup
3) The players all went through waiver process and everyone had a shot at getting them. Teams on bye had higher waiver priority, and weren't paying attention and missed out.
4) Appears there's tons of streaming in this league with decent guys available in the FA pool at all times. So much so, that Parsons and Turner dropped wasn't a red flag to anyone.
Disclaimer: These are the facts as I understand them.
1) Seems like everyone, including commish, was asleep at the wheel and didn't catch the roster purge until 2 weeks later.
2) No one complained about said roster purge until way after the fact and b/c it "might have" impacted the matchup
3) The players all went through waiver process and everyone had a shot at getting them. Teams on bye had higher waiver priority, and weren't paying attention and missed out.
4) Appears there's tons of streaming in this league with decent guys available in the FA pool at all times. So much so, that Parsons and Turner dropped wasn't a red flag to anyone.
Disclaimer: These are the facts as I understand them.
This post was edited on 3/9/16 at 1:04 pm
Posted on 3/9/16 at 1:07 pm to MrPappagiorgio
I nominate myself to act as arbitrator.
Posted on 3/9/16 at 1:07 pm to Toula
on point IMO
Posted on 3/9/16 at 1:07 pm to Toula
Pretty much accurate.
The only thing that I can add is that Gortat and Reggie Jackson( I think) were dropped early on in the playoffs and was caught and reversed. A week later Parsons was dropped and went thru the regular waiver process and was not caught bc you're right, players like Parsons do occasionally get dropped.
The only thing that I can add is that Gortat and Reggie Jackson( I think) were dropped early on in the playoffs and was caught and reversed. A week later Parsons was dropped and went thru the regular waiver process and was not caught bc you're right, players like Parsons do occasionally get dropped.
Posted on 3/9/16 at 1:09 pm to Gtothemoney
And I will add after Gortat and Jackson were dropped and caught, there was discussion about locking the assholes lineup. So when Parsons was dropped, it never even crossed my mind that maybe he dropped him.
Posted on 3/9/16 at 1:13 pm to Gtothemoney
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The only thing that I can add is that Gortat and Reggie Jackson( I think) were dropped early on in the playoffs and was caught and reversed.
then this entire debacle falls squarely on your commish, whoever that is.
Should have instantly locked the non-playoff rosters.
I'd be pretty pissed if i'm in the final four and money is taken out of my potential pot b/c the guy running it goofed.
Posted on 3/9/16 at 1:22 pm to Gtothemoney
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We need to jus to play this out like nothing ever happened. No one gets money back. Tough shite. Just chalk it up as a learning experience .
This I 100% agree on... giving losers their money back and keeping them in the league just leads to more BS seasons down the line.
Posted on 3/9/16 at 1:30 pm to Toula
2 and 3 are kinda inaccurate.
The second Ice dropped Gortat, I alerted the commish to fix it and lock his team. Parsons and Evan Turner didn't jump across as a purge the few days before Ice dropped his studs. I've seen similar player calibers dropped when owners are trying to get more starts in and it being the end of the season.
I was one of bye and my claim for Turner was processed. My claim for Parsons was not processed due to G$having higher priory...I watch the league every day. Nothing raised a flag until the guy dropped Gortat a couple days later. Everything was fixed, but Ice's team apparently wasn't locked.
The second Ice dropped Gortat, I alerted the commish to fix it and lock his team. Parsons and Evan Turner didn't jump across as a purge the few days before Ice dropped his studs. I've seen similar player calibers dropped when owners are trying to get more starts in and it being the end of the season.
I was one of bye and my claim for Turner was processed. My claim for Parsons was not processed due to G$having higher priory...I watch the league every day. Nothing raised a flag until the guy dropped Gortat a couple days later. Everything was fixed, but Ice's team apparently wasn't locked.
This post was edited on 3/9/16 at 1:33 pm
Posted on 3/9/16 at 2:15 pm to Toula
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1) Seems like everyone, including commish, was asleep at the wheel and didn't catch the roster purge until 2 weeks later.
I was awake and noticed, the issue is he dropped Parsons and Turner the Monday that the playoffs started. On that Monday, we were still in contact with ESPN trying to figure out the entire playoff scenario. I took it as he was still making moves just in case he was let into the playoffs. This is why we should probably just play it out.
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2) No one complained about said roster purge until way after the fact and b/c it "might have" impacted the matchup
All roster moves he made after that Monday and after we got confirmation that he was eliminated per ESPN were reversed.
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3) The players all went through waiver process and everyone had a shot at getting them. Teams on bye had higher waiver priority, and weren't paying attention and missed out.
Multiple teams put in claims for Parsons. GMoney was just first out of the playoff teams. I think this is why he accused GMoney of cheating with him,
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4) Appears there's tons of streaming in this league with decent guys available in the FA pool at all times. So much so, that Parsons and Turner dropped wasn't a red flag to anyone.
It wasnt a red flag, Ive dropped players better than both of them this season already.
Posted on 3/9/16 at 2:24 pm to dj30
Yeah you're right, Parsons was dropped first. Doesn't really matter though.
Posted on 3/9/16 at 2:43 pm to Toula
You cannot "Lock" rosters on ESPN after the season starts to my knowledge. I went and read locktime rules on ESPN(even went on reddit and searched)
I actually wanted to boot ice a while back and should have done it,though with him being africking psycho he would've found other ways to start shite.
This was a fail in the vetting process in members and this wouldn't have been an issue with any half reasonable owner.
Whatever I just want to finally move on from this and get whatever the money issue is settled one way or the other.
Get it over with
I actually wanted to boot ice a while back and should have done it,though with him being africking psycho he would've found other ways to start shite.
This was a fail in the vetting process in members and this wouldn't have been an issue with any half reasonable owner.
Whatever I just want to finally move on from this and get whatever the money issue is settled one way or the other.
Get it over with
Posted on 3/9/16 at 2:51 pm to LosLobos111
There is no money issue. There is only people who lost crying and making excuses. Keep in mind both teams who lost did so with a start left so that's 100% on them (even the injury issue that happened and wasn't checked prior to 1st start).
Money payout should stay the same to 1st, 2nd, 3rd. No losers get their money back when they could have made start adjustments and possibly won. Their fault, don't let them blame some idiot who gave them an excuse.
Money payout should stay the same to 1st, 2nd, 3rd. No losers get their money back when they could have made start adjustments and possibly won. Their fault, don't let them blame some idiot who gave them an excuse.
Posted on 3/9/16 at 3:34 pm to Coach D
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Keep in mind both teams who lost did so with a start left so that's 100% on them (even the injury issue that happened and wasn't checked prior to 1st start).
Great point, Coach. I made sure I had a backup plan if Lebron and Kyrie sat like was rumored to happen. I was getting 70 starts regardless .
Posted on 3/9/16 at 4:07 pm to Gtothemoney
So do all of you guys really want to play it out?
Posted on 3/9/16 at 4:08 pm to LosLobos111
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So do all of you guys really want to play it out?
Yes. I vote for play it out. Payout goes to Top 3 like was originally planned.
Posted on 3/9/16 at 4:16 pm to LosLobos111
Play it out.
Posted on 3/9/16 at 4:36 pm to Gtothemoney
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Play it out.
Keep in mind I'm getting my butt kicked already so it would benefit me to hedge my bet right now. Still, nope. Let this shite ride boys. If people don't like it..
Posted on 3/9/16 at 4:56 pm to dj30
quote:This was exactly how I interpreted it
I was awake and noticed, the issue is he dropped Parsons and Turner the Monday that the playoffs started. On that Monday, we were still in contact with ESPN trying to figure out the entire playoff scenario. I took it as he was still making moves just in case he was let into the playoffs.
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