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re: TDBA 2018-19 SEASON THREAD.

Posted on 10/16/18 at 11:20 am to
Posted by Nonetheless
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Posted on 10/16/18 at 11:20 am to
I just ruined my chances of joining chat pack
Posted by TthomasJR
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 10/16/18 at 11:20 am to
I did bid on him when I picked up Elton Brand as his placeholder, which was the rule at that moment.

Posted by MrWiseGuy
Member since Dec 2009
27834 posts
Posted on 10/16/18 at 11:22 am to
quote:

I just ruined my chances of joining chat pack


Tom is furious right now
Posted by Nonetheless
MAGA
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 10/16/18 at 11:22 am to
I know it
Posted by MrWiseGuy
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 10/16/18 at 11:23 am to
my take:

I think Trier should go Thomas. I understand what both sides are saying, but we never voted. Tom played within the rules that were implemented at the time.

Just my $0.02

But it’s Allonzo Trier, who really gives a frick. Let’s just get a set plan in place for future adds.
This post was edited on 10/16/18 at 11:26 am
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
87455 posts
Posted on 10/16/18 at 11:26 am to
quote:

Tom is furious right now


He's putting himself above the league. He's only thinking from his point of view, not the best of the league. This was the last we said on the issue and it seemed like everyone agreed:

quote:

There is no scenario in the way our league is set up where you can just add a player. You have to make a bid, even if it's zero. So if you tell me you want a player no in the pool it cancels out my ability to get him, or if you tell me what you bid it gives me an opportunity to beat it (which I would never do). To me, the best way to do this is to wait for the guy to be in the pool and then add him through the correct process. It's not perfect but it's better than emailing the commish claiming rights to someone when we don't add anyone else without making a claim with value, even if it's zero. I am not even trying to get the dude now, I just want to be consistent.


Tom, you are an adult. Take some initiative and put it to a vote. I shouldn't have to do everything for you. This is a 14 team league. I am a member just like you. If you don't like what I have to say, don't ask.
Posted by TthomasJR
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2006
17323 posts
Posted on 10/16/18 at 11:27 am to
quote:

Elton Brand is now my placeholder for Allonzo Trier


quote:

Guys, We changed to FAAB this year. In the past if someone wanted someone who wasn't in the player pool, they would alert the commish to have him added and would hold a retired player in place. Do you think with FAAB that the player should be bid on when entering the pool? I am not a league nazi, so this shouldn't be my call. What does the league think?


Then we had some back and forth discussion between Port, Matt, and I. A comment or two from frat and MWG. I think everyone is in agreeance that a change should happen for Port's sake, but you can't just go backsies on something that was already in place.

Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
87455 posts
Posted on 10/16/18 at 11:29 am to
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I think Trier should go Thomas. I understand what both sides are saying, but we never voted. Tom played within the rules that were implemented at the time.


The rules changed when we went to FAAB. At least that's how I look at it. We never voted on the "rule" to allow you to add someone who wasn't in the pool, did we? It was an unwritten rule, which is why I brought this up last week.


Plus, I cannot give None his $$ back.
Posted by Gtothemoney
Da North Shore
Member since Sep 2012
17722 posts
Posted on 10/16/18 at 11:30 am to
I may have missed it but did you put a dollar amount on Trier when you used Brand as a placeholder.?
Posted by MrWiseGuy
Member since Dec 2009
27834 posts
Posted on 10/16/18 at 11:32 am to
****LEAGUE VOTE****

Upvote to implement this new rule, downvote to keep as is.

Player's not in ESPN's available player system must have to be added by ESPN and bid on by league owners through the standard FAAB processing before being added to any respective team.
This post was edited on 10/16/18 at 11:33 am
Posted by Nonetheless
MAGA
Member since Jan 2012
34406 posts
Posted on 10/16/18 at 11:33 am to
Which way is it now?
Posted by TthomasJR
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2006
17323 posts
Posted on 10/16/18 at 11:33 am to
You can make zero dollar bids, but you cannot just pick someone up now. They all get processed through the WW.
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
87455 posts
Posted on 10/16/18 at 11:34 am to
Tom is taking this personal - I would be saying the same thing no matter who it is. I am trying to think on what makes most sense for the league, Tom is thinking about his team only.

It doesn't matter that he added Brand because it cost him nothing and Trier wasn't in the pool or claimed when we talked about this last week.
Posted by MrWiseGuy
Member since Dec 2009
27834 posts
Posted on 10/16/18 at 11:35 am to
quote:

Which way is it now?



let's take care of this vote first, then we can move on to y'all's situation. Since Trier doesn't play tonight anyway.
Posted by TthomasJR
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2006
17323 posts
Posted on 10/16/18 at 11:36 am to
quote:

He's putting himself above the league. He's only thinking from his point of view, not the best of the league.


I don't know why this statement continues to be made. I have said countless times that there should be a change, BUT we have to do this correct way and just not make a ruling on some general discussion.

quote:

Upvote to implement this new rule


BTW. I vote for the change, but that doesn't change my mind that I did all of this before things were voted on.
Posted by TthomasJR
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2006
17323 posts
Posted on 10/16/18 at 11:38 am to
quote:

Tom is thinking about his team only.


Man, there it is again.

quote:

It doesn't matter that he added Brand because it cost him nothing and Trier wasn't in the pool or claimed when we talked about this last week.


What is the difference from when I added him for Marshon Brooks two weeks before? Because quitter arse 21 brought it up in the other league, that's why.
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
87455 posts
Posted on 10/16/18 at 11:38 am to
IJS I am not out to get you.
Posted by Gtothemoney
Da North Shore
Member since Sep 2012
17722 posts
Posted on 10/16/18 at 11:39 am to
I know that. Maybe you should have emailed port with a dollar amount you wanted to bid on Trier so none knew what your bid was.

I didn’t read all what was discussed. Sorry.
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
87455 posts
Posted on 10/16/18 at 11:42 am to
Tom did notify me, just not with an amount. But that's the problem - that undercuts my ability to bid on the guy. It just makes more sense to bid on the correct player when he hits the pool. If Tom would have taken him in the draft this would be a different conversation.
Posted by Toula
504
Member since Dec 2006
35405 posts
Posted on 10/16/18 at 11:44 am to
I think this is similar to Ariza and Winslow thing. Only a few owners saw when they hit the pool and bid top dollar for them.

None saw when Trier hit the pool and bid top dollar on him.


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