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Should This Trade Be Vetoed

Posted on 6/12/12 at 12:55 pm
Posted by JRennie7309
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2012
59 posts
Posted on 6/12/12 at 12:55 pm
I need some outside non biased input here. This is a 12 team 5x5 daily categories league. You start 1 catcher, 1 1b, 1 2b, 1 3B, 1 SS, 3 OF, 1 utl, 4 SP, 2 RP, and 1 P.

The trade that is pending is Matt Kemp, Josh Willingham, JJ Hardy, and Casey Janssen for Justin Verlander, Cole Hamels, Nelson Cruz, and Angel Pagan
Here are the teams lineups pre trade

Carlos Ruiz
1B Chris Davis
2B Dustin Ackley
3B Kyle Seager
SS J.J. Hardy
OF Mike Trout
OF Coco Crisp
OF Josh Willingham
Util B.J. Upton
BN Ryan Roberts
BN Matt Kemp
DL Ryan Howard
SP A.J. Burnett
SP James Shields
SP Tim Lincecum
SP Andy Pettitte
RP Craig Kimbrel
RP John Axford
P Aroldis Chapman
BN Casey Janssen
BN David Price
BN Hiroki Kuroda
BN Daniel Hudson

C Matt Wieters
1B Freddie Freeman
2B Brandon Phillips
3B Mike Moustakas
SS Mike Aviles
OF Nick Swisher
OF Raul Ibanez
Util Josh Reddick
BN Nelson Cruz
BN Chris Johnson
BN Jordan Schafer
BN Angel Pagan
SP Justin Verlander
SP Cole Hamels
SP Lance Lynn
SP Jason Hammel
RP Alfredo Aceves
RP Jose Valverde
P Colby Lewis
BN Shaun Marcum
BN David Robertson
DL Drew Storen
What do you think shoulde this trade be vetoed? TIA
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
71957 posts
Posted on 6/12/12 at 1:01 pm to
No

Kemp= Verlander
Willingham = Hamels
Hardy = Cruz
Jansen = Pagan

Posted by bbeck
Member since Dec 2011
14555 posts
Posted on 6/12/12 at 1:04 pm to
I would say no. While Kemp is hurt, he is still highly, highly valuable. One guy wants pitching, while the other wants a top 3 player.

It's not the price I would pay for Kemp, but I don't see it as collusion.
Posted by JRennie7309
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2012
59 posts
Posted on 6/12/12 at 1:36 pm to
I agree that Kemp is valuable but he is hurt now and has already been on the DL twice. Plus the guy who is receiving the verlander end is in 3rd place and the guy who is getting kemp is in 9th place. The guy who is receiving kemps is going to have a severely weak pitching staff now with only 4 SP in Marcum, Jason Hammel, Colby Lewis, and Lance Lynn. To me it just seems like it would be really hard to win any pitching categories with only 4 SP plus he is not guaranteed to win every hitting category even with the addition of kemp, willingham, and hardy. I guess thats the way I see it and wanted to see what yalls perspective was.
Posted by reddman
Member since Jul 2005
78186 posts
Posted on 6/12/12 at 1:39 pm to
No reason at all for that to be vetoed.
Posted by SouthOfSouth
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2008
43456 posts
Posted on 6/12/12 at 3:11 pm to
Valid trade whether you like it or not... Kemp is a gamble most would take on.
Posted by Rohan2Reed
Member since Nov 2003
75674 posts
Posted on 6/12/12 at 3:34 pm to
Don't see any reason why it should
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