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re: SBL 2013 Spring Training (Keepers 3/17, Slow Draft to follow)

Posted on 1/22/13 at 1:32 pm to
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
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Posted on 1/22/13 at 1:32 pm to
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Im chilling until i see what ESPN eligibility looks like on a few dudes.

Sounds like I need to inquire on Hanley's position eligibility.
Posted by GynoSandberg
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Posted on 1/22/13 at 1:36 pm to
Hanley is ss/3b

All positions for 2013 are out theee
Posted by EarlyBird
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Posted on 1/22/13 at 1:37 pm to
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Im chilling until i see what ESPN eligibility looks like on a few dudes.


I assume ESPN would give you the option of setting eligibility criteria. Our previous criteria has been 10 games for the previous season and 5 games in-season.
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
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Posted on 1/22/13 at 1:37 pm to
I can fap to that.
Posted by GynoSandberg
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Posted on 1/22/13 at 1:39 pm to
Top 250

Position eligibility is on the side
Posted by GynoSandberg
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Posted on 1/22/13 at 1:41 pm to
Karabell's top 10 hitters

1. Mike Trout, OF, Los Angeles Angels
He wouldn't be in this spot if I thought he was going to steal "only" 30 bases. Anyone else remember those incredible Eric Davis seasons, including the one with 27 home runs and 80 stolen bases, and another with 37 homers and 50 steals? Wouldn't it be awesome if Trout, even sacrificing some batting average, did that? Frankly, Trout doesn't need to contend for a batting title to earn this top spot.



2. Ryan Braun, OF, Milwaukee Brewers
Braun was my top choice this time last year, and people thought I was nuts, citing a certain scandal and trying to glean how it would torch Braun's stats. I don't think people are concerned anymore. Look, I'm fine with Cabrera, too, and the third base eligibility is nice, but when you lock up a big power/speed guy early, it changes the rest of your draft.



3. Miguel Cabrera, 3BDetroit Tigers
Cabrera hit 44 home runs with 139 RBIs and 4 steals in 2012. From 2009 to 2011, he averaged 34 home runs, 111 RBIs and 4 steals from 2009 to 2011, and in 2011 he finished seventh on the Player Rater. Yeah, I know, he didn't have Prince Fielder batting behind him then, and now he does, but there could be regression coming here as well.



4. Andrew McCutchen, OF, Pittsburgh Pirates
The mild concern with McCutchen is that his batting average (.327 in 2012) will take a hit and that his terrible stolen base percentage -- he was 20-for-32 on steal attempts -- will result in fewer tries, but since I can't be sure the next guy will be healthy (or stay that way), McCutchen checks in at No. 4.



5. Matt Kemp, OF, Los Angeles Dodgers
The first four guys just seem more reliable, even a guy entering his second full season (Trout). Kemp dealt with injuries for the first time in 2012, and it shortened his season and impacted his swing as well as his ability to run. Offseason shoulder surgery is not expected to linger into this season, and certainly he's a potential 30-homer/30-steal guy, though I'd bet it'll be more like 35/25.



6. Robinson Cano, 2B, New York Yankees
No middle infielder can be counted on to play every day, hit for power and bat .300 every season, except this one. In this case, the reliability -- he finished 17th overall on the Player Rater in 2012 and 18th in 2011 -- from such a miserable fantasy position trumps the relative lack of stolen bases.



7. Albert Pujols, 1B, Angels
I don't think it's living in the past to continue believing in this guy. His 2012 season was the worst of his career, and it still netted 30 home runs, 105 RBIs, eight steals and a .285 batting average. And his April was abysmal (.217, 0 HR, 4 RBI). If you believe in lineup protection, which I usually don't put much stock in, then the Josh Hamilton addition should vault Pujols, as it did for Cabrera. Ultimately, this remains the safest first baseman in the game, and he's not too old to get back to producing MVP-type stats.



8. Troy Tulowitzki, SS, Colorado Rockies
I realize this choice goes against the grain, so to speak -- my wise colleague Tristan H. Cockcroft ranks Tulowitzki third at his position and 37th overall -- but a year ago, Tulo was the sixth pick in ESPN live drafts (ADP). He battled injuries in 2012, but I don't see why he can't go right back to hitting .300 with 30 home runs. How many shortstops can do this? Tulo's durability is a concern, of course, but from 2009 to 2011, in an average of 139 games per season, he averaged 30 home runs, 97 RBIs and a .304 batting average. I'm still buying, obviously.



9. Carlos Gonzalez, OF, Rockies
Yes, I'm buying on Tulo's teammate as well. Who cares if a major portion of his numbers came in home games? That might be an issue in head-to-head formats, but not in standard leagues. His line the past three seasons: .313, 27 home runs, 98 RBIs, 22 steals. That works just fine for me.



10. Jose Bautista, OF, Toronto Blue Jays
Bautista beats out Prince Fielder, Joey Votto, Buster Posey and Justin Verlander, names you'll found in other top-10 rankings, because, as with Tulo, I don't see why Joey Bats can't lead the majors in home runs again, just as he did in 2010 and 2011. Word is he's healthy again, and there was little wrong with his power and plate discipline last season. Might he hit .250? Perhaps, but he might also hit 50 home runs. I'm expecting 40 blasts and a .280 batting average.
Posted by EarlyBird
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Posted on 1/22/13 at 1:43 pm to
No Votto. Wow.
Posted by Toula
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Posted on 1/22/13 at 1:53 pm to
Not worried about Hanley, he easily qualifies at both. Was curious on AGonz and his 18 games at OF.
Posted by GynoSandberg
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Posted on 1/22/13 at 2:05 pm to
Doesn't look like it
Posted by Toula
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Posted on 1/22/13 at 2:09 pm to
I vote stay with CBS !
Posted by GynoSandberg
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Posted on 1/22/13 at 2:13 pm to
Espn round by round mock dynasty draft (10 rounds)



ROUND 1
Pick Overall By Player Age
1 1 Ravitz Mike Trout, OF, LAA 21
2 2 Cockcroft Ryan Braun, OF, Mil 29
3 3 Schoenfield Bryce Harper, OF, Wsh 20
4 4 Berry Miguel Cabrera, 3B, Det 29
5 5 Karabell Andrew McCutchen, OF, Pit 26
6 6 Mass Giancarlo Stanton, OF, Mia 23
7 7 Becquey Carlos Gonzalez, OF, Col 27
8 8 Roberts Buster Posey, C/1B, SF 26
9 9 Lipscomb Matt Kemp, OF, LAD 28
10 10 Quintong Joey Votto, 1B, Cin 29
ROUND 2
Pick Overall By Player Age
1 11 Quintong Robinson Cano, 2B, NYY 30
2 12 Lipscomb Justin Upton, OF, Ari 25
3 13 Roberts Josh Hamilton, OF, LAA 31
4 14 Becquey Troy Tulowitzki, SS, Col 28
5 15 Mass Prince Fielder, 1B, Det 28
6 16 Karabell Albert Pujols, 1B/DH, LAA 33
7 17 Berry Evan Longoria, 3B/DH, TB 27
8 18 Schoenfield Jason Heyward, OF, Atl 23
9 19 Cockcroft Starlin Castro, SS, ChC 23
10 20 Ravitz David Wright, 3B, NYM 30
ROUND 3
Pick Overall By Player Age
1 21 Ravitz Justin Verlander, SP, Det 30
2 22 Cockcroft Felix Hernandez, SP, Sea 26
3 23 Schoenfield Clayton Kershaw, SP, LAD 25
4 24 Berry Stephen Strasburg, SP, Wsh 24
5 25 Karabell Dustin Pedroia, 2B, Bos 29
6 26 Mass Jay Bruce, OF, Cin 25
7 27 Becquey Jose Bautista, OF, Tor 32
8 28 Roberts Jose Reyes, SS, Tor 29
9 29 Lipscomb David Price, SP, TB 27
10 30 Quintong Cole Hamels, SP, Phi 29
ROUND 4
Pick Overall By Player Age
1 31 Quintong B.J. Upton, OF, Atl 28
2 32 Lipscomb Hanley Ramirez, 3B/SS, LAD 29
3 33 Roberts Adam Jones, OF, Bal 27
4 34 Becquey Edwin Encarnacion, DH/1B, Tor 30
5 35 Mass Freddie Freeman, 1B, Atl 23
6 36 Karabell Adrian Beltre, 3B/DH, Tex 33
7 37 Berry Elvis Andrus, SS, Tex 24
8 38 Schoenfield Manny Machado, 3B, Bal 20
9 39 Cockcroft Ian Kinsler, 2B, Tex 30
10 40 Ravitz Jurickson Profar, 2B, Tex 20
ROUND 5
Pick Overall By Player Age
1 41 Ravitz Eric Hosmer, 1B, KC 23
2 42 Cockcroft Matt Wieters, C, Bal 26
3 43 Schoenfield Madison Bumgarner, SP, SF 23
4 44 Berry Jason Kipnis, 2B, Cle 25
5 45 Karabell Brett Lawrie, 3B, Tor 23
6 46 Mass Jose Altuve, 2B, Hou 22
7 47 Becquey Ryan Zimmerman, 3B, Wsh 28
8 48 Roberts Chase Headley, 3B, SD 28
9 49 Lipscomb Ben Zobrist, OF/2B/SS, TB 31
10 50 Quintong Pablo Sandoval, 3B, SF 26
ROUND 6
Pick Overall By Player Age
1 51 Quintong Yoenis Cespedes, OF/DH, Oak 27
2 52 Lipscomb Jacoby Ellsbury, OF, Bos 29
3 53 Roberts Adrian Gonzalez, 1B, LAD 30
4 54 Becquey Matt Cain, SP, SF 28
5 55 Mass Gio Gonzalez, SP, Wsh 27
6 56 Karabell Brandon Phillips, 2B, Cin 31
7 57 Berry Curtis Granderson, OF, NYY 32
8 58 Schoenfield Austin Jackson, OF, Det 26
9 59 Cockcroft Billy Butler, DH/1B, KC 26
10 60 Ravitz Carlos Santana, C/DH/1B, Cle 26
ROUND 7
Pick Overall By Player Age
1 61 Ravitz Ian Desmond, SS, Wsh 27
2 62 Cockcroft Anthony Rizzo, 1B, ChC 23
3 63 Schoenfield Chris Sale, SP, CWS 24
4 64 Berry Paul Goldschmidt, 1B, Ari 25
5 65 Karabell Michael Bourn, OF, FA 30
6 66 Mass Wilin Rosario, C, Col 24
7 67 Becquey Billy Hamilton, SS, Cin 22
8 68 Roberts Jered Weaver, SP, LAA 30
9 69 Lipscomb Desmond Jennings, OF, TB 26
10 70 Quintong Matt Holliday, OF, StL 33
ROUND 8
Pick Overall By Player Age
1 71 Quintong CC Sabathia, SP, NYY 32
2 72 Lipscomb Asdrubal Cabrera, SS, Cle 27
3 73 Roberts Joe Mauer, C/DH/1B, Min 29
4 74 Becquey Kris Medlen, RP/SP, Atl 27
5 75 Mass Johnny Cueto, SP, Cin 27
6 76 Karabell Zack Greinke, SP, LAD 29
7 77 Berry Mark Trumbo, OF/DH/1B, LAA 27
8 78 Schoenfield Will Middlebrooks, 3B, Bos 24
9 79 Cockcroft Wil Myers, OF, TB 22
10 80 Ravitz Yu Darvish, SP, Tex 26
ROUND 9
Pick Overall By Player Age
1 81 Ravitz Mike Moustakas, 3B, KC 24
2 82 Cockcroft Matt Moore, SP, TB 23
3 83 Schoenfield Salvador Perez, C, KC 22
4 84 Berry Jesus Montero, DH/C, Sea 23
5 85 Karabell Allen Craig, 1B/OF, StL 28
6 86 Mass Craig Kimbrel, RP, Atl 24
7 87 Becquey Aroldis Chapman, RP, Cin 25
8 88 Roberts Mat Latos, SP, Cin 25
9 89 Lipscomb Adam Wainwright, SP, StL 31
10 90 Quintong Jimmy Rollins, SS, Phi 34
ROUND 10
Pick Overall By Player Age
1 91 Quintong Jordan Zimmermann, SP, Wsh 26
2 92 Lipscomb Cliff Lee, SP, Phi 34
3 93 Roberts Yovani Gallardo, SP, Mil 27
4 94 Becquey Matt Harvey, SP, NYM 24
5 95 Mass Kyle Seager, 3B, Sea 25
6 96 Karabell Alex Gordon, OF, KC 29
7 97 Berry James Shields, SP, KC 31
8 98 Schoenfield Max Scherzer, SP, Det 28
9 99 Cockcroft Ike Davis, 1B, NYM 26
10 100 Ravitz Oscar Taveras, OF, StL 20
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Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 1/22/13 at 2:31 pm to
Damn...my players in both leagues getting a lot of love....Machado and Profar went earlier than I'd expect (both in the 4th).
This post was edited on 1/22/13 at 2:32 pm
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 1/22/13 at 2:38 pm to
They went ahead of Hosmer, rizzo, goldschmidt, kipnis, lawrie, Carlos Santana etc. those guys have at least proven to be good MLB guys over the course of a year

It may be their pending SS eligibility that has them being picked higher
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 1/22/13 at 2:41 pm to
Was it a keeper draft? Obviously I like them, but in a draft from scratch i wouldn't be picking those guys up in the 4th.
Posted by Toula
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Posted on 1/22/13 at 2:42 pm to
Dynasty league. Big difference.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 1/22/13 at 5:39 pm to
Missed that....I need this league to last long enough for my guys to bring me the title.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 1/22/13 at 6:41 pm to
so are you in or out of this league?
Posted by rondo
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Posted on 1/22/13 at 6:42 pm to
He said he is in the league Big Marle
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 1/22/13 at 7:07 pm to
thanks 'doe
Posted by cwill
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Posted on 1/22/13 at 9:27 pm to
Lester did you graduate from LSU?
This post was edited on 1/22/13 at 9:52 pm
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