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Posted on 2/10/15 at 12:09 pm to
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 2/10/15 at 12:09 pm to
I like McHugh, he has great "stuff" and as he continues to learn to pitch he should only get better.

Not saying he's going to come up with a 2.5 ERA campaign or anything, but he should be good, and he definitely strikes people out. He was a key piece in my TDBL run last season, was hoping to snag him in this league as well, but no such luck.
Posted by TTownTiger
Austin
Member since Oct 2007
5356 posts
Posted on 2/10/15 at 12:34 pm to
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TTown: Landed some really great power bats, in E5, J. Bats, and Big Papi. Some aging guys, but they can still swing. Alex Gordon is steady, and i wouldnt rule out 25 HR from Morse. On the pitching side, Yu is his SP1? After that, he has Ryu, then some major questions. However, he is going to line up Greg Holland and Aroldis in his pen, as well as Benoit & Melancon, so im interesting to see how that plays out.

Future Outlook: Has no younger MLB players that I would covet. Drafted 9 minor league bats, and only 1 pitcher. Not sure of that strategy, considering his SP situation




I agree with most of that. Not sure of Morse's potential to hit 25 bombs in Miami, but he is projected to hit 4th behind Yelich and Stanton. I am kinda just hoping for 15-18 HRs and 80-plus RBIs from him, which wouldn't be bad from a 3rd OF in this deep of a league.

You kinda answered my thought process of my minor league players. My offense is old. E5 and Bautista still look like they can mash but will slow down sooner rather than later. And who knows with Papi & Morse...they may be out of the league by 2017. Meanwhile, although my bats are a lot better than my pitching staff, majority of my impact pitchers (the few that I have) are still in their 20s. So I thought it was more important to find replacements for my old arse hitters while hoping to buy some time with my pitchers considering they're younger.

I was considering drafting minor league pitchers late in our draft. But I took into consideration that probably 30 more amateur pitchers will be drafted in the first two rounds during the MLB amateur draft in June/July and almost all of which will immediately become better prospects than the pitchers that were still available in the 30th-34th round of our draft. Again, hopefully I can just buy some time and wait for them in our minor league draft next season.

Posted by dj30
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2006
29855 posts
Posted on 2/10/15 at 12:40 pm to
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Prince Fielder (neck) was given a clean bill of health Monday from Dr. Drew Dossett.
Fielder appeared in only 42 games last summer for the Rangers before undergoing season-ending cervical fusion surgery. The 30-year-old first baseman is a strong bounceback candidate for the 2015 fantasy campaign. He told fans and media in January that he felt "ready to play a pickup game right now."


40 HR, 130 RBIs= Darryljames30 championship.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
103904 posts
Posted on 2/10/15 at 12:42 pm to
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40 HR, 130 RBIs= Darryljames30 championship.


I'd hope that Fielder and Beltre could combine for better than that.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 2/10/15 at 12:43 pm to
Crash Test Taveras: Really liked his early draft, landing Freeman and Donaldson. Thought Marte was taken a little early, but is productive. Ryan Braun is a potential lottery ticket. Taken 4.1. Carter will provide power, and Im a fan of Souza this year.

Pitching leaves a lot to be desired. Jon Lester, then a bunch of meh. Iwakuma is a nice place holder, and Lirano at SP3 could be scary. I like his hitters a good bit, as well as his relievers, but the SP needs work.

Future Outlook: Pretty young team on the hitting side. I wonder how fast Braun ages. Pitching is rough, and only has 2 minor league arms at this point.


Ivisbile Pickles: Mike Trout, Carlos Santana and Dozier are a nice core. What is he gonna get from Reyes, Zimmerman, and Wieters tho? Barf J Upton? Cuddyer is a nice swing piece. I like the upside of his lineup, but could leave him scrambling. I do like a few of his bench hitters, Joyce & Coghlan,

Pitching will hinger on what Verlander he gets. Gerrit Cole looks like a future SP1, but needs to stay healthy. Anibow as SP is productive but hardly sexy. If Carrasco pitches like he did last year, he'll be in biz.

Future Outlook: Trout is an anchor, but i feel like he has a lot of purgatory guys. Ask me after this season for a better read. On the MiLB side, i really like Owens and Jon Gray, Maikel Franco is pretty polarizing.


Mr Wiseguy: The final product isnt bad, but i just look at his team and i ask who were his early picks? Carlos Gomez at 1.17, then Buxton. Kipnis in the 3rd after his last season was ballsy. I thought Longoria was great value in the 4th, as was Matt Holliday in the 8th, and Moss in the 10th. So he cleaned up what I thought was a shaky early draft.

Pitching: K, i like Wacha. With all the young guys flying off, im surprised he lasted until 5th. James Shields SP2, nice landing spot in SD. But he's aging. Ervin Santana as SP3 is scary.

Future Outlook; Archie Bradley and Buxton are 2 of the top players overall in baseball. His MLB team is young veterans, should be OK for a few years.


OneMoreTime: Rizzo is a nice young anchor, and I like Desmond. Arrenado needs to improve his road splits. Like the upside of D'Arnaud and Betts, a lot of people are high on Kole Calhoun.

Pitching has 2014 wonder boys in Arrieta and Fiers. Jordan Zimmerman is steady. Not much else after that though. Collmenter and Leake, eek. Relievers arent great.

Future Outlook: Has a nice young team with no real old guys. Should be a solid foundation to build on.


Swamie: First thing that jumps off is he has some nice power bats, and some speed pieces. 2nd thing, is that his OBP will prob suck. In a perfect world, Gattis, Bowdro, Abreu and Arcia all hit 30 HRs. Hamilton and Pompey should provide some juice on the bases. Kinsler is still steady, tho slowing down a little.

Pitching has Strasburg and Harvey, when healthy is one of the top combos in the league. That just may not be this year. With Harvey out initially, he'll have to rely on Wily Peralta, Cingrani, and Kyle Lohse. Gulp.

Future outlook: Abreu is only 28, at least according to his forged birth certificate. Stras and Harvey should be good for a while. Curious to see what Arcia turns into. Maybe a Nelly Cruz type? Corey Seager is one of my fav Minor league guys.


Deebz: Not sure how to approach this team. Posey was his first hitter taken, which is solid, tho a move to 1B may be in his future. Then he loaded up on 2014 breakout guys, that im afraid may be 1 hit wonders. JOsh Harrison, JD martinez, mainly. I believe in Charlie Blackmon more, but he did slow down a little. Even so, he has MLB proven guys like Morneau, Pedroia, and Jimmy Rollis. Albeit older, should keep him in the thick.

Pitching looks to be solid, with Kershaw, and he bought Kluber high like those other breakout guys of 2014. If Kluber can repeat, that is an excellent 1-2. Jerez Weaver is a solid SP3, but after that it gets hairy.


Future Outlook: Older team on the hitting side, pitching is in a little better shape. Kershaw does have a ton of innings for his age, however. Carlos Rodon could be the next Liriano. Not sure if that is good or bad.


Drunken Clams: I didn;t like his draft, but it's hard to argue that the guys dont hold some value. Rendon at pick 10 was a reach, imo, but he is productive. He'll prob lose 2B elig this year. I guess he can be a David Wright type. Im hoping his power sticks. MadBum is awesome, I didnt like Heyward or Baez in the 3rd or 4th, but again, they'll do their job. Trumbo, Sal Perez, and logan morrison have a lot to prove. With big years from 2-3, he moves up.

Pitching MadBum is a bonafide SP1, his SP is kind of cloudy. Mike Minor or Gallardo. both have their moments but have also hit some rough patches. Aaron Sanchez is interesting.

Future Outlook: Not an older team by any means, but it lacks the future studs I expect from Clams. Giolito is heralded, and Almora seems like at the least a decent MLB player. Im not a fan of Baez, i think his K rate will keep him from being what we thought he was going to be 2 years ago.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 2/10/15 at 12:43 pm to
doble post
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Posted by swamie
Where opportunity meets hard work
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 2/10/15 at 12:43 pm to
big talk for a middle tier (?) owner
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
74347 posts
Posted on 2/10/15 at 12:52 pm to
I don't buy jon Lester as a fantasy ace. Last year was a bit of an outlier imo
Posted by dj30
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2006
29855 posts
Posted on 2/10/15 at 1:08 pm to
Just 30 and 120 for Beltre.
Posted by dj30
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2006
29855 posts
Posted on 2/10/15 at 1:09 pm to
I guarantee I finish top 3.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Member since Nov 2003
290332 posts
Posted on 2/10/15 at 1:13 pm to
darryljames: Man i love what Brantley did last year, but is it repeatable? Its hard in a 20 team league to pass on that, i understand. Beltre in the 3rd is an old frick, but he still hits. Prince is going to be the key cog here. Can he get back to the 30 HR power he had? He looked bad even before injury last year, but i believe in him. Utley and Crawford, im just not sure.

Pitching he took 5 pitchers from rounds 5-10. I think that hurt his hitting. Thought de Gromm was the biggest reach of the early portion of the draft. I like the commitment to Middle relievers, in landing Miller and Wade Davis. I do like Ventura and Samardjza coming after Sale. So de Gromm doesnt have to be awesome. Still could have gotten better value.

Future Outlook: Pitching is youthful, hitting is not. He has some work to do there, with no real outstanding prospects.


Boo: I like his hitting on paper, even with all the Astros. His pitching is what kept him out of the middle tier. I think Altuve regresses, but still is a guy who you want to have. Springer should produce even with the K's, and Pujols and Frazier are 2 vets you can count on.

Pitching is really bad off, imo. a 1-2-3 of Phil Huges, Tanner Roark(does he even have a rotation spot?) and Dallss Kuechel. Jose Quintana also there.

Future Outlook: Springer is a nice piece, tho he is going to be 26 at the end of the year. Altuve is also young. Correa is #1 prospect on a lot of lists, and I like Luis Severino with the Yanks.


Chat: This was another fringe middle tier team. I dropped it down because of uncertainties. I think taking Tomas and Syndegaard back to back was a mistake. Would have probably taken 1 and then someone that has proven something. I think that kinda set him back. Tanaka in the 4th round has some big questions with his elbow too. I do think McCann is due a rebound, and I think Gardener is very underrated. Segura and Schoop dont do it for me, despite their age. Maybe they put it together a few years from now.

Pitching David Price is David Price, and Tanaka showed out in his first year, but his injury could be bad. SP3 is??? Pomeranz? DeScalafini? Licecum? Dunno. :crickets:

Future outlook: his team isnt old, i like Goldy as a foundation. Tanaka has his future ahead of him, but elbow is worrisome. I really like Syndergaard as an up and comer.


CQQ: Hey Yo, where da pop, baw? Cutch is the centerpiece here, but he's going to be relying a lot on guys like Dannys Vargas and Neil Walker. Those might be the only 3 guys to hit double digit HRs. Maybe ARod?

Pitching is strong. I can admire a guy that takes pride in his pitching. Scherzer, Cueto, Latos, Kimbrel. Ok, its moving a little bit. Lackey and Hudson to clean up when needed.

Future Outlook: Joc Pederson in the 4th, i hope he works out for you. I like his tools. And Im not counting out MArk Appel just yet. Id say Cutch and Cueto are his young MLB pieces. Both are 28.


CWill: Another team that i think will struggle for pop. I loved the Puig pick, i dont think people realize he is only 24. I keep hearing about Bogaerts, and i trust scouts, but he hasnt shown me much yet. Still, he's only 22. Im a Wong fan. Not huge fan of Yelich in this draft spot.

Pitching Stroman, Archer, Pineda and Gray are all SP2's with some SP1 upside. Let's see what they do. But I like that group for the future.


Future Outlook: time is definitely on this teams side. He has some really good pieces to build around. Nothing is really great that stands out, but a lot of "good".


The GoodFellas: outlook for this year will be a tease. I think he has enough solid MLB guys to make a little noise, but he isn't going to have the complimentary pieces. His first 6 picks were hitters that have 53 career HRs amongst them, and Mesoraco has 41 of them. Desmond Jennings and Moustakas taken in the middle rounds, I think maybe their time has passed.

Pitching first pitcher off the board was Gausman in the 9th. I like his velocity, but i know people are worried about a 3rd pitch. I still think that was pretty good value. Derek Holland has shown flashes when healthy, but im Not sure who is going to be the SP3 on this team.

Future Outlook: Now the future is bright. Soler is my fav prospect in the Cubs system. I think people forget how good Profar was supposed to be. Sano & Gallo could lead the league in HRs down the line. Some of these guys are bound to hit, but some will bust too. It's fun to monitor minor league guys, but id like to mix that with winning. This team is 3 years off or so, imo.
Posted by swamie
Where opportunity meets hard work
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 2/10/15 at 1:15 pm to
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2nd thing, is that his OBP will prob suck.





quote:

With Harvey out initially, he'll have to rely on Wily Peralta, Cingrani, and Kyle Lohse. Gulp.


should only be for the first week of the season. He'll get his first start at home and they plan on giving him some rest around the AS break.

The plan is to have the aces do their thing, let the RP not blow shite, then have Peralta, Cingrani, and Lohse just be average and eat innings. Cingrani being the wild card since he's not an innings eater, but hopefully displays that 2013 magic. Don't know what to expect from Heaney, he could end up back in AAA actually. Then last, have Corbin come back after the AS break and be my #3.
Posted by reddman
Member since Jul 2005
78195 posts
Posted on 2/10/15 at 1:18 pm to
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I guarantee I finish top 3.




I like my team way more than yours, and I won't even make that kinda guarantee.

Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
103904 posts
Posted on 2/10/15 at 1:21 pm to
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Pitching is really bad off, imo. a 1-2-3 of Phil Huges, Tanner Roark(does he even have a rotation spot?) and Dallss Kuechel.


Roark (yes, he might end up in the bullpen at first) was the 6th SP I picked up, not the 2nd. I'm not worried about my pitching (ETA: Except K/9), I'm more worried about my OF after Springer.

This post was edited on 2/10/15 at 1:24 pm
Posted by reddman
Member since Jul 2005
78195 posts
Posted on 2/10/15 at 1:22 pm to
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Reddman: I really like this team on paper, but it has the chance to implode with some of the oft-injured guys he took. Tulo, Kemp, Votto all need to stay healthy. All could be top 40 players. Zobrist, Carpenter, and Montero are steady at their position. I really like AJ Pollock this year.

King Felix anchors the staff, followed by young arms Cobb and Cashner. Talented, but not exactly tried and true. If he can get anything from Bauer, that would certainly help. Relievers are good.

Future Outlook: His team isnt old, per se, but as i said, injuries have been a problem for several of his guys. King Felix's innings will be a concern in the coming years, imo. Prospects look good on the pitching side. HItters are just OK.



I think I did a good job of sticking to my plan of drafting high OBP guys (Votto, Tulo, Carpenter). That is gonna go a long way in this league.

I'm gonna need Cashner to stay healthy and start missing more bats, and I agree about needing something out of Bauer. I am already prepared to move prospect arms for MLB veteran arms down the stretch if it looks like I am going to be in the hunt for a title.

Posted by Lester Earl
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Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 2/10/15 at 1:27 pm to
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should only be for the first week of the season. He'll get his first start at home and they plan on giving him some rest around the AS break.




ok, yea i knew that. I was thinking of Fernandez,

still, they say control has to be reestablished, and he had some control problems earlier in his career. Gonna wait and see.
Posted by OneMoreTime
Florida Gulf Coast Fan
Member since Dec 2008
61865 posts
Posted on 2/10/15 at 1:28 pm to
I pretty much agree with everything you said about my team. I went with almost all young guys who I thought had really good upside. Betting on guys like betts (lol), arenado, d'arnaud, and of course Rizzo to be a solid foundation for the next few years.

I did neglect pitching to a degree, but I think most of the guys I've got will be solid there. Miley is a guy who I think can get me solid numbers even though he hasn't been great the past couple of years.

And yeah I'm not really thrilled with the relievers that I ended up with.
Posted by EarlyBird
Member since Jun 2006
4109 posts
Posted on 2/10/15 at 1:30 pm to
Thanks for the writeups Lester.
Posted by papz
Austin, TX
Member since Jul 2008
9382 posts
Posted on 2/10/15 at 1:31 pm to
Ditto. Always enjoy a good write up.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
103904 posts
Posted on 2/10/15 at 1:31 pm to
Absolutely... always interesting to see what other people think.
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