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re: FSBDL Slow Draft

Posted on 2/9/15 at 11:46 am to
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 2/9/15 at 11:46 am to
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Who is suggesting that you can have healthy guys on your DL?




rondo, at one point i believe it was you that said every guy with a red flag by their name should be DL eligible.
Posted by barry
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Posted on 2/9/15 at 11:49 am to
I'm going to do a series of questions in a poll at lunch to try and break down the issue.
Posted by rondo
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Posted on 2/9/15 at 11:49 am to
I might have tried to piggy back on Redds comment yesterday but that was when I didnt realize the red flag just means any sort of discomfort and has nothing to do with an actual injury
Posted by rondo
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Posted on 2/9/15 at 11:50 am to
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well, how do you separate the seriously injured guys from the guys that end on the 15 day DL?


Yea you might have to put 2 seriously injured guys back on your bench. The concession would be you could also have one 15day DL guy on there all offseason and it wouldn't affect the league as much. THere has to be some balance there





one word, one number and two letters


60 day DL
This post was edited on 2/9/15 at 11:51 am
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 2/9/15 at 11:52 am to
ok.

on another front, say the last place Reds shut down johnny cueto at the end of the season because of mild elbow soreness. Just kind of a precautionary thing. They put him on the 15day DL. Why should he be able to stay on the DL all offseason?
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 2/9/15 at 11:52 am to
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one word, one number and two letters


60 day DL



ok, and i would have no problem with that.
Posted by EarlyBird
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Posted on 2/9/15 at 11:53 am to
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60 day DL


Only possible issue with this is that some teams manipulate this designation according to roster requirements. Some seriously injured players will sit on the 15-day DL until an additional roster spot is needed. This doesn't always happen, but it does happen. So this isn't a fail-safe way to identify serious injuries.
Posted by rondo
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Posted on 2/9/15 at 11:53 am to
the only issue with that would be guys like Beachy...dude isnt on the 60 day because he isnt on a team

or are we saying if they ended the previous season on the 60 day they can stay on DL all offseason?
This post was edited on 2/9/15 at 11:54 am
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 2/9/15 at 11:54 am to
but he ended the season with the braves on their 60day DL, i assume
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 2/9/15 at 11:55 am to
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or are we saying if they ended the previous season on the 60 day they can stay on DL all offseason?




this is what I would be fine with.


there is no DL in the offseason, so the previous season is all you can go off of.
Posted by EarlyBird
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Posted on 2/9/15 at 11:57 am to
So you're ok with carrying over the DL through the offseason?
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 2/9/15 at 11:59 am to
yea, like i said 3 pages ago, it should be 60DL guys only.
Posted by rondo
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Posted on 2/9/15 at 11:59 am to
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but he ended the season with the braves on their 60day DL, i assume



he did
Posted by EarlyBird
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Posted on 2/9/15 at 12:03 pm to
This hair-splitting is getting tiresome. This has turned into an inner-city school board meeting. Y'all throw something out there and I'll vote on what I like most.
Posted by rondo
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Posted on 2/9/15 at 12:06 pm to
Seems as if TBM is comfortable using the 60 day DL distinction as the cut off for having a guy on your offseason DL.

vote on that...(it needs to include whether or not this includes this offseason)
Posted by MrWiseGuy
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Posted on 2/9/15 at 12:09 pm to
quote:

comfortable using the 60 day DL distinction


I like that

quote:

vote on that...(it needs to include whether or not this includes this offseason)


why wouldn't it include this offseason?
Posted by rondo
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Posted on 2/9/15 at 12:10 pm to
Just to clarify
Posted by GynoSandberg
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Posted on 2/9/15 at 12:15 pm to
Everyone drafted guys knowing they were injured and what not with no DL rule in place. It's not like anyone got fricked by an injury.

Most will start the year active. If they don't, adjust your DL accordingly. I know this is an evolving league but I'd like to think "the committee" wouldn't expect to start retroactively adding rules instead of proactively adding them for future seasons
Posted by rondo
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Posted on 2/9/15 at 12:16 pm to
So you are not on agreement with marle?
Posted by reddman
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Posted on 2/9/15 at 12:18 pm to
Lets just go with what is already in the rules:
III. Roster Requirements
A. Starting Lineups
1. All starting lineups must consist of one each of C, 1B, 2B, 3B, SS, OF, OF, OF, U, and 9 P spots
2. All 9 P spots are open to use as SP or RP.
3. Lineups are submitted daily.
4. It is the responsibility of each owner to make sure that his lineup is set for each day.
5. Errors or mistakes are solely the fault of the owner, and cannot be overturned.
6. The rules committee has the authority to change a team’s lineup if asked to by the owner of said team. 7. Illegal lineups will result in no stats accumulated for that day.
B. Bench Players
1. Each team will be allowed to have 6 bench players.
2. There are no restrictions on the positions for bench players.
C. Minor Leagues
1. Each team will be allowed to roster 10 minor leaguers.
2. A player is eligible to be rostered as a minor leaguer until he reaches 400 AB or 150 IP.
a) Players that reach the threshold limits above must either be moved to the active roster or released.
b) Minor leaguers can NOT be on the active roster until they are called up to the major leagues.
c) Once a player has played in a MLB game, he can be moved back and forth from the minors to the active roster until the threshold is hit. Once that happens, the player can no longer be placed on a minor league roster, even if the player is actually no longer on an MLB active roster.
D. Disabled List
1. Each team will have 3 DL slots.
2. Only players that are currently on the MLB disabled list can be placed on the FSBDL disabled list.

3. Once a player comes off of the MLB disabled list, it is the owner’s responsibility to activate him.
a) Failure to do so could result in lost stats for the days where the lineup is illegal.
b) The league website is the default enforcer of this rule.
E. Position Eligibility
1. Players gain position eligibility by playing 10 games the previous season or 5 in the current season.
2. The positions determined by the league website will be used to settle any disputes on position eligibility.
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