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Posted on 2/9/15 at 10:41 am to
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 2/9/15 at 10:41 am to
that would be unfortunate and you'd have to do some trimming.


i mean with only 6 bench spots, then 3 DL spots, in a 20 team league....you seemingly can hold 9 healthy "bench" players all off-season.


In a league where every single roster spot matters, i just don't think thats fair.
Posted by TTownTiger
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Posted on 2/9/15 at 10:41 am to
Is it possible to just increase MLB roster size during the offseason by 3 or 4 players (not minors - that should stay at 10 players year round regardless of DL status for them, IMO). Maybe increase MLB rosters by 3 a week after the final world series game is played and enforce that it has to be trimmed back down to the current 24 man roster before first game of season? That can take the DL issue out of the offseason entirely. Roster increases by 3 during offseason for every team, regardless of DL status.

I don't know if there are even settings available on Fantrax to make that possible, but it could be a solution.
This post was edited on 2/9/15 at 10:43 am
Posted by GynoSandberg
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Posted on 2/9/15 at 10:44 am to
Just post a poll and be done with it
Posted by RollDatRoll
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Posted on 2/9/15 at 10:46 am to
Agreed with the poll. It's time to decide on this issue and move on.
Posted by EarlyBird
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Posted on 2/9/15 at 10:49 am to
I did weigh in. But people started asking me questions that I had already addressed because they were too lazy to go back and read it. My suggestion was to allow DL carry overs only for specific circumstances. For instance, we could only allow players owned or acquired during the regular season (or after a cut off date) to be carried through the offseason. Or it could be based on inury severity.I'm trying to avoid forcing an owner to dump a player because the DL only exists during the season. I can understand not wanting teams to take advantage of the rule in an effort to stash players. That's why I say we should regulate how the DL carry over occurs. We could use the 60-Day DL rule but I need to look at how teams utilize it. I tend to believe that there is no offseason in a dynasty. Therefore, bringing roster designations in and out throughout the year can be troublesome. But I'm fine with clamping down on offseason DL spots by assigning stipulations such as injury severity and date in which the player was owned.

ETA:

TTT brings up another thing that I already mentioned. Expanding rosters in the offseason only.
This post was edited on 2/9/15 at 10:54 am
Posted by cwill
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Posted on 2/9/15 at 10:56 am to
Why not just expand rosters by 2 or 3 spots in the offseason and no DL?
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 2/9/15 at 10:56 am to
i dont think we need to be making major moves like adding roster spots for this.
Posted by rondo
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Posted on 2/9/15 at 11:01 am to
quote:

i dont think we need to be making major moves like adding roster spots for this.



I think we should vote on it.
Posted by EarlyBird
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Posted on 2/9/15 at 11:05 am to
What are we voting on? Ideas are being thrown out like Mardi Gras. We need decide what the possible options are first. And do we want to vote on six different ideas? That seems pretty watered down. I guess we could start with the basic idea of eliminating the DL in the offseason vs. a full/modified/regulated DL and then go from there in a subsequent vote (if needed).
Posted by rondo
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Posted on 2/9/15 at 11:06 am to
expanding rosters IMO
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 2/9/15 at 11:11 am to
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expanding rosters IMO




something that needed to be done before you create this league. We cant just add roster spots now. Didnt sign up for that.
Posted by cwill
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Posted on 2/9/15 at 11:24 am to
Just expand rosters for the offseason...then shrink a week before the draft and for the season and return to the DL spots.

I can't believe this has become such a complicated issue. And it's not the kind of issue that would affect whether or not you join a league.
Posted by rondo
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Posted on 2/9/15 at 11:26 am to
So marle...I want to make sure I understand your position.

over the course of this year, you get two TJ's dropped on you, you add those guys to your DL...your position is that as soon as the season ends you have to clear your DL?

Or should those guys be allowed to remain on the DL?


Or is only 1 guy allowed to be on DL?


What if instead of TJ surgery, your 1B hits a walk off grand slam and breaks his leg jumping on home plate?


What if your pitcher gets cancer?
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 2/9/15 at 11:32 am to
quote:

What if instead of TJ surgery, your 1B hits a walk off grand slam and breaks his leg jumping on home plate?


What if your pitcher gets cancer?


The only correct answer to these questions is this: Knat will have new team name options.

Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 2/9/15 at 11:34 am to
In theory I don't have a problem with guys with major injuries to be put on DL, even throughout the offseason.


But it cant just be some uniformed policy that all DL guys can be kept on there for the whole offseason.


the 1 DL spot was just a suggestion if we were going to allow anyone DL guy to be kept there the whole offseason. So yea, if you had 2 TJ guys, you'd have to put one your bench.


IDk, i joined this league because it looked challenging as shite. Everything pointed to that, from the small benches, to the number of teams ,to the dynasty element. Now all of a sudden people want to add roster spots and be allowed to put anyone on the DL.

I thought this was going to be a cutthroat, challenging league? Not making up new rules to make it easier on everyone. If i have to keep a hurt player on my bench, then so be it. Id rather that route then being able to have 3 healthy guys on my DL all offseason, while adding 3 other healthy players to my team in the mean time.
Posted by rondo
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Posted on 2/9/15 at 11:39 am to
quote:

the 1 DL spot was just a suggestion if we were going to allow anyone DL guy to be kept there the whole offseason. So yea, if you had 2 TJ guys, you'd have to put one your bench.



see this is just weird to me...You can have 3 DL spots all year....then the season ends and two guys that clearly will be on the DL next year need to be removed from your DL?
Posted by rondo
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Posted on 2/9/15 at 11:40 am to
quote:

Id rather that route then being able to have 3 healthy guys on my DL all offseason



Who is suggesting that you can have healthy guys on your DL?
Posted by LSUBoo
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Posted on 2/9/15 at 11:40 am to
FTR: When the committee was discussing lineups I suggested to do away with DL spots entirely... but that also included a slightly expanded bench (to 8 players instead of 6) at the same time. If you want to stash someone, it comes at the expense of a bench spot.

That's a moot point now though, I don't think it would be fair to change to that setup after we drafted.

I think the most fair way is to have the off-season carry-over only apply to 60-day DL players.

ETA: Or just leave it how it is, if you have a player end the season on the DL you can leave them there until spring training starts and they lose that designation, or another set point like a week before the draft, or a week before opening day.
This post was edited on 2/9/15 at 11:42 am
Posted by EarlyBird
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Posted on 2/9/15 at 11:41 am to
I agree Nobes. Lester is some kind of fantasy baseball masochist that enjoys the pain of dropping players to accommodate TJs. I'm guessing from the lack of response that nobody wants to add restrictions to offseason DL use. I'm fine with expanded rosters.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 2/9/15 at 11:44 am to
well, how do you separate the seriously injured guys from the guys that end on the 15 day DL?


Yea you might have to put 2 seriously injured guys back on your bench. The concession would be you could also have one 15day DL guy on there all offseason and it wouldn't affect the league as much. THere has to be some balance there


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