re: Official Frick the 2 Party System Thread #FeelTheJohnson

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the GOP needs to shite out its spine and undergo a reformation to become more libertarian

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I'd rather not, we already have an open borders party, thanks.

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Unless you change the fundamental structure of how American elections operate, you are never going to have a sustainable 3rd party. It's really that simple.

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2 things

1. major parties in the US do change. it hasn't always been DEM and GOP

2. you can force one of the major parties to change. the DEMs are a perfect example. after the 2010 midterms when they lost a lot of "blue dog" DEMs, they just wrote them off and the more progressive wing of the party took over and that has become their focus

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by the further and further surge of population dependency on the government and the continuous flow of more and more 3rd world workers who have no cultural ties to concepts of individual liberty.

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well let's say a mythical small L libertarian wins and works to reduce government. that solves both problems. now let's say they never can win or reshape one of the parties and the GOP or DEMs maintian the status quo. you're basically giving up and supporting government expansion and authoritarianism, just a version of it with your "side" running it

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Trump's candidacy, regardless of what you think about his character, actually provides the possibility for fundamentally altering the platform of a major political party.

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to what, exactly?

Just voted for him here in Georgia.

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If you hate the 2 party system, vote Trump.

Johnson is a moron.

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I love how the echo of "Johnson is a moron" caught so much traction on this board, but Trump, nah, Trump is the man

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if we drastically reduced government in the area of social safety net and entitlement spending, why would open borders even matter?

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You're right, why would I worry about bringing in tons of people who vote to support welfare expansion if we just lowered social spending? Yeah, it all makes sense now.

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the whole point is that those options wouldn't even be on the table anymore

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So it would be illegal to raise social spending?

Wow, you're right. As long as we reduce it, we can let anyone in, and they will never vote to increase it. I'm starting to feel the johnson now, dude.

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So it would be illegal to raise social spending?

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if a libertarian took over, in this hypothetical, it would be b/c we'd return to a pre-Wickard world

the only reason we have entitlement spending is due to supreme court caselaw. without that, the feds couldn't even do it no matter hwo much people voted, UNLESS they passed a consttutional amendment

This

well you can't really stop parties. it's just associations of people

what we need is to remove the advantages that parties get in the electoral system across the country