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David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
4060 posts

re: Pfizer earned $3.5 billion on COVID vaccine in first quarter
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There’s nothing nefarious about it just because it’s a government. They had a vested interest in the product being developed for a wholly unique situation.

Again, this entire thread really just comes off as “big pharma bad” *grunt*

I think you're smarter/more thoughtful than this. True, what you describe may be the case for some, but let's not discuss something like liberals and sweep everybody into convenient boxes.

Nefarious implies something immoral or criminal. I don't think I've seen a single argument that suggests immorality or criminality. Why go there?

The rational argument is it's not what we want from our government. You argue "vested interest" and "wholly unique situation," but understand that people just as smart and just as worldly/thoughtful as you don't agree with that characterization. Some of us see a contrived situation that resulted in the enrichment of a few at the expense of many, all based on an unfortunate virus.

A lot of really smart people also look at precedents that have been set with the COVID shitshow, and really don't look forward to life in a country where government has assumed so much control. Think about it - five years ago did you ever imagine Americans being locked out of their businesses, schools, churches, being forbidden from attending funerals and weddings, etc., etc? What's happened the last 12 months should alarm the hell out of everybody - Right, Center and Left.

"Big pharma bad" and a *grunt* implying, perhaps, that someone that has grown skeptical of big pharma is somehow not intelligent or sophisticated. If that's the implication, you're wrong. Big pharma, and big medicine broadly, has proven that what most believed 25 years ago - that medicine was apolitical and somehow free of drivers like greed and a willingness to cheat/steal - simply isn't the case. Healthcare is no different than any other industry. Doctors and administrators are no more virtuous than professionals of any other type. You probably know better than most here why this is legitimately the case.


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David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
4060 posts

re: Pfizer earned $3.5 billion on COVID vaccine in first quarter
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Capitalism works.

You can be supportive of the COVID industry. Be okay with whatever, agree that it was in the broad best interests - solid arguments can be made that's the case. But don't go full retard and suggest that what we've witnessed is capitalism at work.


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Vacherie Saint
New Orleans Saints Fan
Member since Aug 2015
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re: Pfizer earned $3.5 billion on COVID vaccine in first quarter
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That isn’t true. One said I missed the mark and the indictment was more at corporatism, the other was thine with his usual bs defense and then your unique confusion.

Basically, two of the responses understood my post. Only you missed the mark...by a country mile


huh?

One poster sarcastically pointed out that Thine's rant is only "anti-capitalist" if one ignores massive government influence (with a side of libertarian gibberish), and while Thine is nuttier than a squirrel turd, he clearly took offense to your comment and defended himself by pointing out that he's critical of all exploitative systems.

So maybe you need some help with reading comprehension.. or maybe its just the a-hole thing again.



cwill
Member since Jan 2005
48151 posts

re: Pfizer earned $3.5 billion on COVID vaccine in first quarter
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One poster sarcastically pointed out that Thine's rant is only "anti-capitalist" if one ignores massive government influence (with a side of libertarian gibberish), and while Thine is nuttier than a squirrel turd, he clearly took offense to your comment and defended himself by pointing out that he's critical of all exploitative systems.


Yes they disagreed, but they at the very least understood the basic logic of my post, that I was pointing out Thine's post was a basically an anti-capitalist trope.

You on the other hand bizarrely accused me of making an anti-capitalist statement. You didn't follow.


Vacherie Saint
New Orleans Saints Fan
Member since Aug 2015
27498 posts

re: Pfizer earned $3.5 billion on COVID vaccine in first quarter
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Yes they disagreed
with what? You weren't mocking capitalism. You were mocking anti-capitalists, remember?

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the basic logic of my post
still looking


cwill
Member since Jan 2005
48151 posts

re: Pfizer earned $3.5 billion on COVID vaccine in first quarter
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with what? You weren't mocking capitalism. You were mocking anti-capitalists, remember?


They disagreed with my assessment of Thine's post as anti-capitalist. I can't believe you're this confused.


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