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re: When players begin to call the shots means you lost program

Posted on 11/30/20 at 6:37 am to
Posted by BornCritic
Member since Nov 2020
696 posts
Posted on 11/30/20 at 6:37 am to
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The old school player subservience will never come back. Coaches have to relate better with these players. Players aren’t as poor and backward as they used to be and they’re social media savvy and better exposed to the world. I actually respect them for it. And I’m old school


Were they "subservient" or just appropriately humble?

It's a nuanced situation, and I agree we should not make the error of forgetting that they are their own people and don't exist for our entertainment, but I don't blame people who are turned off by the extent to which things have shifted to a "me-first, got to get my money" mentality.

I also don't really blame the players for it. I know we feel school pride and want to believe this is all about more than money, but the fact is that the administrators and coaches treat it like a for-profit business. When the coaches are building generational wealth for coaching unpaid athletes, you can't blame the athletes for being disillusioned.

I do agree it's up to the coaches to figure out how to deal with all of this, and I don't know that we have the coaching staff to do it on a consistent basis, although we've seen that if everything lines up correctly, it can work out.
Posted by Honkus
Member since Aug 2005
51159 posts
Posted on 11/30/20 at 6:47 am to
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Can someone translate that? What the hell is he even saying?


I guess he is trying to quote lyrics from a "lil durk" song. Interesting song choice for someone who stays "prayed up" and is constantly putting the glory to God

quote:

Don't talk about bitches in my past, you know that pussy old
You can go out of town for a hunnid days, I know that pussy closed
You ain't gon' play, you gon' bring my drugs, make sure that cookie rolled
Come around my dawgs, ain't tryna kick it, playin' that sister role
Even on bad terms, ain't no giving out information
They ask me something I won't respond, that shite verification
You get mad when I nonchalant, 'cause I don't be thinking it's major
They be mad I'm nonchalant 'cause I don't respond to them haters, uh (woo, yeah)
When you put numbers on true love you can't fake the amount
And I'm worldwide with who I love this not a fake account
I cover your mouth when we frick, 'cause you hate to shout, mm, mm


Posted by cj2002
louisiana
Member since Nov 2007
2027 posts
Posted on 11/30/20 at 6:48 am to
Sure thing, give everyone a trophy. Defund the police, La will be underwater tomorrow, Did you vote Biden also?

Ever think about the cost of everything those players have access to? Training, Medical, Food, Technology, Tutors, Tuition, with the opportunity to get a degree or be a pro athlete.

Above all NOTHING IS FREE.
Posted by YouAre8Up
in a house
Member since Mar 2011
12792 posts
Posted on 11/30/20 at 6:57 am to
It happened at Ole Miss what made you think that it wasn't going to happen here?
Posted by Meauxjeaux
98836 posts including my alters
Member since Jun 2005
39933 posts
Posted on 11/30/20 at 7:57 am to
When Coach checks out, so do the players.
Posted by jonboy
Member since Sep 2003
7138 posts
Posted on 11/30/20 at 8:00 am to
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When Coach checks out, so do the players.


This is where we are right now.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58660 posts
Posted on 11/30/20 at 8:02 am to
quote:

When Coach checks out, so do the players.



Seems that way.
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20443 posts
Posted on 11/30/20 at 8:03 am to
quote:

When Coach checks out, so do the players.



Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
22283 posts
Posted on 11/30/20 at 8:06 am to
A coach needs more than cliches to make it work.
Posted by Dennis4LSU
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Sep 2008
4481 posts
Posted on 11/30/20 at 8:10 am to
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Saban is an not O. He is football 24/7. Unlike O. O got the big contract, divorced and running young stuff. O is done.
I was all for hiring O but success went to his head, This is not the same at Orgeron that lobbied for the job at LSU this year’s O 2.0 is a complete shite show and needs to be shown the door
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
11975 posts
Posted on 11/30/20 at 9:40 am to
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The old school player subservience will never come back.


I can live without football. Can the players?
Can Ryan Clark and the other SJWs on ESPN?
Several of them just lost their jobs. They better get WOKE about life, and not fun and games.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56254 posts
Posted on 11/30/20 at 9:42 am to
It does seem that CEH, JB, JJ, PQ, and others set the tone last year. There is just no way we have this big of a drop off if we had the leadership we need this year.
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