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re: Who wins more games as LSUs head coach in 2015?

Posted on 7/20/19 at 5:10 pm to
Posted by Damone
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Posted on 7/20/19 at 5:10 pm to
People stopped talking about UAB and ULM when Saban won hardware. O hasn’t done that yet so people will continue to bring up Troy.
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10092 posts
Posted on 7/20/19 at 5:57 pm to
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our blockheaded coach run it up the middle while Ole Piss and Arkansas
Didn't LSU throw it 50+ times that game?
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 7/20/19 at 9:40 pm to
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Didn't LSU throw it 50+ times that game?



35 times for 271 yards (59 rushing yards that game) against Arky and 51 times for 324 yards (184 rushing yards that game) against Ole Miss. Don't burst their bubble. Trashing Miles is the only enjoyment some of them get.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 7/20/19 at 9:44 pm to
I think you get a higher floor with the defensive line coach, higher ceiling with Les.
Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 7/20/19 at 10:18 pm to
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program run by a doofus who lucked into 100+ wins.



I'll take "No argument from me" for a 1000 Alex!
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 7/20/19 at 10:44 pm to
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Kinda funny that you leave those stats out. 


what stats?

ole miss was a 10 win team that beat bama.

ole miss now struggles to reach .500
arky was a 8 win team in 2015
they won more games in 2015 than 2017 and 2018 combined.
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isn’t dumb enough to run it up the middle repeatedly all game long against top 10 run defenses. 




2015 ole miss beat saban and it was their 2nd time in a row

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was so fricking embarrassed that year watching our blockheaded coach run it up the middle while Ole Piss and Arkansas loaded the box and were laughing at how easy it was to stop our offense.



51 pass attempts against ole miss
35 pass attempts against Arkansas
DO YOU FOLLOW LSU FOOTBALL?

then 2018 must've really embarrassed you...

2015 offense compared to 2018
better points per game
better points per play
better yards per game
better yards per play
better 3rd down conversion %
more 1st downs per game
better top
better qb completion %
better passing yards per completion
better rushing yards per game
better rushing yards per play
better offensive tds per game
better redzone td%



you must have really been embarrassed watching Southeastern Louisiana hold us to 3 1st downs and 63 yards in the 2nd half in 2018.

you must have really been embarrassed watching the 2018 offense be held under 400 yards 7 times



its amazing watching you not hold this staff to the same standard you held the last staff to.
This post was edited on 7/20/19 at 10:47 pm
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 7/20/19 at 10:55 pm to
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you listened to the dipshits on this board you’d think LSU was just a mediocre program run by a doofus who lucked into 100+ wins.


Les Miles tenure at lsu

one of the most accomplished tenures in sec history

-most weeks in the top 25
-as many top 5 finishes as saban,mac,and dietzel combined
- as many top 10 finishes as the previous 40 seasons of lsu football combined
-the 1st coach in 4 decades to win a sec title with a team consisting of 100% his players
-no program beat more teams that finished the season ranked
-best win % in lsu history
- best ooc regular season win % in sec history(minimum 50 games)
- best home win % in lsu history
- best ooc win% in lsu history
-best ooc regular season win% in lsu history
- most top 25 finishes in lsu history
- most top 20 finishes in lsu history
- most top 15 finishes in lsu history
- most top 10 finishes in lsu history
- most top 5 finishes in lsu history

you dont luck into those accomplishments.
could a better x and o coach achieved more with the talent miles had? I BELIEVE SO but there is no guarantee that that talent is at lsu without Miles' recruiting.

there are very few elite recruiters that are also elite x and O coaches. that's what makes them the best coaches in cfb.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 7/20/19 at 11:02 pm to
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That Troy team was better than the UAB and ULM teams that Nick Saban lost to at home. I can give you a shitload of other examples of great college coaches losing to programs they had no business losing to. 



in 2000 saban took over a team that had 3 wins the previous year
in 2007 saban took over a bama team with 6 wins the previous year
In 2017 O had a team with the 2nd most nfl draft picks in cfb


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You O haters need to find a better card to play than that “O lost to Troy” card that you think is the trump card in every argument.


it is a trump card when discussing bad losses for lsu coaches
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 7/20/19 at 11:18 pm to
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He also lost to Florida as a 2 TD favorite at home wth the Sugar Bowl on the line.


missing tons of defensive starters

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Florida could possibly be without its entire starting defensive front

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Defensive tackle Joey Ivie is already out for Saturday’s matchup with a thumb injury, and defensive tackle Caleb Brantley is questionable with a finger injury. The news is not much better with defensive ends Jordan Sherit and Bryan Cox Jr., although Florida head coach Jim McElwain is not ready to close the door completely on Cox playing against the Tigers.

In addition to those four, linebacker Alex Anzalone, who is the second-leading tackler with 32 stops, will play with a splint on his hand.




and some offensive players..
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The Gators are also dinged up on the offensive side of the ball with quarterback Luke Del Rio’s status up in the air due to a sprained MCL in his knee.
"What we'll do is he'll go some today, he'll go more tomorrow and Wednesday," McElwain said. "We'll see exactly where and how much that swells, where the pain is and where the stability is."
In Del Rio’s absence, Purdue transfer Austin Appleby has led the Gators from behind center the last two games, meaning two Purdue transfer quarterbacks could face off in LSU’s Danny Etling versus Appleby.
Starting offensive tackle David Sharpe, who plays on the left side, is also listed as questionable with a shoulder injury.
Wide receivers Chris Thompson and Brandon Powell are also nursing a hamstring and ankle, 

Posted by michael corleone
baton rouge
Member since Jun 2005
5813 posts
Posted on 7/21/19 at 6:42 am to
Coach O beat essentially the same Ole Miss team (ranked 3) in 2016, so my bet is that he does the same in 2015. Arkansas is always a crap shoot bc of the schedule. Les lost to them in 2007 with everything on the line and skull f’d them in 2011, but only after TM7 lit the house on fire with a punt return for a TD. This is the season for the lovers and haters to either come together or go their own way for a while. We finally have a real QB and a defense AT THE SAME TIME. It’s a 2012-2013 type of team, but with a different coach. I think O and Aranda finish the season better than Les and Chief.
Posted by Old
Metairie
Member since Dec 2016
2843 posts
Posted on 7/21/19 at 6:44 am to
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Upvote for miles downvote for Orgeron.
ABSURD, + ILLOGICAL.
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
Champs 03 07 09 11(fack) 19!!!
Member since Mar 2007
21785 posts
Posted on 7/21/19 at 6:55 am to
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Coach O beat essentially the same Ole Miss team (ranked 3) in 2016



Posted by michael corleone
baton rouge
Member since Jun 2005
5813 posts
Posted on 7/21/19 at 7:16 am to
Not sure what you think his so funny. OM beat the snot out of a good Georgia team and had a big win over TAM prior to the LSU game. They played Alabama down to the wire in a shootout. The roster was damn near the same as 2015 when they kicked our arse.
Posted by LSU82BILL
Fort Lauderdale, FL
Member since Sep 2006
10327 posts
Posted on 7/21/19 at 7:53 am to
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People stopped talking about UAB and ULM when Saban won hardware. O hasn’t done that yet so people will continue to bring up Troy.



The only people who continue to bring up Troy are O haters as though a double standard is OK. Much better coaches have lost games they had no business losing. Great coaches have had teams that shite the bed on big stages. Saban’s Bama team was a 6 point favorite and lost a NC game to Clemson by 4 touchdowns. Steve Spurrier lost a NC game by 38 points. Jumbo Fisher lost a CFP game by 39. Pete Carroll lost a game to Stanford where USC was a 38.5 point favorite. Lloyd Carr lost at home to Appalachian State when Michigan was a 31 point favorite. Mack Brown had a Top 10 team and lost a rivalry game to Oklahoma by 38. These are all coaches that have won national championships. shite happens.
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 7/21/19 at 8:11 am to
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Not sure what you think his so funny.


The roster was damn near the same as 2015 when they kicked our arse.



Well first off they weren’t “ranked 3”, they were 23 and that was literally the last week they have been ranked to this day, so no clue what you were talking about unless you meant 2014 when a Miles team actually pulled a massive upset against #3 OM.


And except for the three first rounders they lost (Tunsil, Nkimdiche, Treadwell) not to mention Cody Core, Denzel Nkemdiche, and Fahn Cooper yeah I guess it was “damn near” the same roster


Ole Miss went from a top 25 rushing defense in 2015 (not to mention 2014 when a Miles team pulled that upset, as if Miles never beat the Rebels ) to one of the worst in the country. Miles would have run all over that defense the same way O’s team did and pretending otherwise is embarrassing.


That OM team also finished 5-7 (2-6) and was mired in the NCAA controversy that would ultimately take down Freeze, so not sure how you can make the argument with a straight face.



If anything there are arguments to be made that O would have actually lost to MSU in 15, hell even in 16, given his struggles against Mullen (not to mention Syracuse), and that Miles would have beaten UF in 16 and probably would have even scored against Alabama, but those types of hypotheticals are stupid and pointless.
This post was edited on 7/21/19 at 8:32 am
Posted by mhc4tigers
Member since Aug 2016
4338 posts
Posted on 7/21/19 at 8:43 am to
Saban lost to UAB at home. Then at Bama he lost to ULM. So what is your point. Just moronic
Posted by LosTigres251
Plano
Member since Mar 2018
1594 posts
Posted on 7/21/19 at 9:03 am to
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quote: He also lost to Florida as a 2 TD favorite at home wth the Sugar Bowl on the line. missing tons of defensive starters quote: Florida could possibly be without its entire starting defensive front quote: Defensive tackle Joey Ivie is already out for Saturday’s matchup with a thumb injury, and defensive tackle Caleb Brantley is questionable with a finger injury. The news is not much better with defensive ends Jordan Sherit and Bryan Cox Jr., although Florida head coach Jim McElwain is not ready to close the door completely on Cox playing against the Tigers. In addition to those four, linebacker Alex Anzalone, who is the second-leading tackler with 32 stops, will play with a splint on his hand. and some offensive players.. quote: The Gators are also dinged up on the offensive side of the ball with quarterback Luke Del Rio’s status up in the air due to a sprained MCL in his knee. "What we'll do is he'll go some today, he'll go more tomorrow and Wednesday," McElwain said. "We'll see exactly where and how much that swells, where the pain is and where the stability is." In Del Rio’s absence, Purdue transfer Austin Appleby has led the Gators from behind center the last two games, meaning two Purdue transfer quarterbacks could face off in LSU’s Danny Etling versus Appleby. Starting offensive tackle David Sharpe, who plays on the left side, is also listed as questionable with a shoulder injury. Wide receivers Chris Thompson and Brandon Powell are also nursing a hamstring and ankle,



SHHH. You are going to get all the prick lickers running in here to make more excuses.

Nothing worse than running the ball left down on the goal line when LSU hadnt moved the ball at all left most of the game. So much love in here for a coach that hasnt done squat, its amazing.
He has made way too many mistakes to garner all this love.

Orgeron is lucky that Burrow fell in his lap, after he lost Surtain to the gumps. He didnt sign a DB at all that recruiting cycle at DBU! And no QB after telling the world that was job 1. SMH
He should pay 10% of his salary to the Burrow family for the rest of his tenure at LSU.

But luck counts. Its not how; its if. And Burrow is the QB at LSU.

Hes got the highest paid DC in the business and a very good QB. Hopefully, he has somehow endured all these rookie mistakes and has learned valuable lessons and is now ready to coach a great program and win big.


This post was edited on 7/21/19 at 9:10 am
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32858 posts
Posted on 7/21/19 at 10:10 am to
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Saban lost to UAB at home. Then at Bama he lost to ULM. So what is your point. Just moronic


Saban followed each of those losses up with an SEC Championship. What did O follow the Troy loss up with?
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 7/21/19 at 10:43 am to
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Coach O beat essentially the same Ole Miss team (ranked 3) in 2016


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